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speed basics.

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impulsive_state

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ok im a newbie to speed and have a few questions that i would be greatful if anybody could answer them
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1) how damaging is speed to the brain in comparison with ecstasy?
2) is there a slideshow (similar to the one on dancesafe) for speed?
3) if i took some at work would i be able to focus ok? (im a labourer in a stone quarry)
4) is the comedown REALY that bad? and is there any way's to minimise it?
5) its my 1st time using it so how much should i take? ive been told its good stuff, (not by the dealer lol) i was thinking like 300mg???
6) is speed and E bad together? im guessing yes but just want to be sure. if i was to take speed with E, would i do it 1st or on the comedown?
well thats all i can think of for now, but i have more.
thank ya'll
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I tried sniffing Coke once, but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose. :(
 
1) how damaging is speed to the brain in comparison with ecstasy?
i was told by the professional that speed users mentally become worse off than any other drug users
2) is there a slideshow (similar to the one on dancesafe) for speed? i dunno
3) if i took some at work would i be able to focus ok? (im a labourer in a stone quarry)
well i used to do it at skool and my workrate increased and vision was fine no need though only use it in suitable envioments i have learnt that the hard way with drugs..
4) is the comedown REALY that bad? and is there any way's to minimise it?
same as pills dont do it....nope im not sure but follow the same steps as pills and u shud be ok
5) its my 1st time using it so how much should i take? ive been told its good stuff, (not by the dealer lol) i was thinking like 300mg???
u can neva rely on mr dealer whoever he is, but i wud say maybe only 150-200mg? im not sure it can be very potent maybe over a night 300mg depends what your doing
6) is speed and E bad together? im guessing yes but just want to be sure. if i was to take speed with E, would i do it 1st or on the comedown?
dont do them 2gether is the best way however im not sure take the pills 1st i think cos then u wud be loved upo and not just speedy
 
I've looked on erowid before and cant seem to find the answer's to any of my questions
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I tried sniffing Coke once, but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose. :(
 

1) how damaging is speed to the brain in comparison with ecstasy?

Um some say bad some say not.. i tend to think E is less damaging if use with proper post load techniques (and in moderation)

2) is there a slideshow (similar to the one on dancesafe) for speed?

Not that i know off.. Check out the info on www.erowid.org

3) if i took some at work would i be able to focus ok? (im a labourer in a stone quarry)

YEah probably. not to much though(speed). why do it at work though?

4) is the comedown REALY that bad? and is there any way's to minimise it?

The more you take the worse the comedown. I have had speed comedowns that are ten times worse than any E comedown. (phrases like "i can't be fucked talkig man , just shut up", to my best mate, come time mind) But mostly , a small dose you won't realy notice anything..

5) its my 1st time using it so how much should i take? ive been told its good stuff, (not by the dealer lol) i was thinking like 300mg???

Um is this rock speed where talking (pure), or the cut crap you get in clubs.. Cause the cut crap is genrally like 5:1 rock, sometimes worse.. Meaning a point (100mg) of rock would make 5 points (500mg) of cut speed from a club.. 1 point of rock speed (pure) is more than enough for a newbie.. I sugest, half point (50mg) early then half
later on.. (so as not to get that RAAAAAAAAAAARRRR grinding teeth energy burst)
but if its just cut crap (like most is from clubs) anything from 1 to 3 points (over time)

6) is speed and E bad together? im guessing yes but just want to be sure. if i was to take speed with E, would i do it 1st or on the comedown?

well the theory is that the speed knocks off the "lovey dovey high" from e, but i find some speed maby 1 hour b4 e is good so as not to get sat on my arse during peak of the e. But its certainly worse for neurotoxicity to be having speed and e... This is because (i think) speed releases dopamine, while e releases Serotonin, (and a little dope), when you run out of our friend Serotonin from the e, the extra dopamine leads to higher neroutoxicity in the axons. (from dopomine oxidizing).. Though this can be prevented to an extrent by postloading correctly.
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C'mon Griff, we gotta cut back on the "go to erowid" replies, it is a valid question..
I dont feel like using the quote tags, you will have to determine whats mine and whats yours... I also assume you mean "methamphetamine" when you say speed.. amphetamine is non-existant in the states, only those nutty people in Europe get it.. but thats the problem with slang - PLEASE USE THE PROPER TERMS!
1) how damaging is speed to the brain in comparison with ecstasy?
Answer -
Not as bad as MDMA, provided you keep your use to moderate doses at best, and don't use often.. if you take it orally, and use tiny amounts (ie not enough to get you lifted) then it's really harmless..
2) is there a slideshow (similar to the one on dancesafe) for speed?
Answer -
Not that I know of.. in short - it causes an increase in the release of dopamine, norepinephrine (sp) and to a lesser extent, serotonin, there are a few other neurotransmitters that slip my mind right now.. it also has a *very* slight inhabititive action in terms of dopamine reuptake, really not enough to count..
3) if i took some at work would i be able to focus ok? (im a labourer in a stone quarry)
Answer -
Sheet kneegrow, thats what it's for.. you would be focused like a laser, have the energy of a laser, and be able to cut that motherfucking rock like a laser, and not just any laser, a ROCK CUTTING LASER!
4) is the comedown REALY that bad? and is there any way's to minimise it?
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Only if you get some momentum with your use.. if you get wired and tweak all day at work, you will come home, sleep like a baby, and wake up without so much as a headache.. now if you do that for the entire week, you will start to crash harder and harder.. while not phyiscally addictive, meth can have some nasty physical withdrawal symptoms that are further percipitated by your mind..
5) its my 1st time using it so how much should i take? ive been told its good stuff, (not by the dealer lol) i was thinking like 300mg???
Answer -
Are we not talking about meth but rather amphetamine? Either way, 300mg is WAY to much! Even shitty crank will get you jacked at around 50mg-100mg, if it's good shit you will be wired off less then 25mg.. if you're talking about amphetamine then those number are only slightly higher...
6) is speed and E bad together? im guessing yes but just want to be sure. if i was to take speed with E, would i do it 1st or on the comedown?
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Yes, if you watch the DS slideshow on ecstasy, then keep in mind that meth further increases your DA levels, you will understand why.. but MDMA + meth is *SO* much fun! You will roll your balls (is that what they say?) and blow up harder then you ever have before, except it lacks the empathy you normally have with MDMA, also, the comedown is horrific, and I INSIST that if you do this you have some industrial strength benzos on hand.. meth is so long lasting it doesn't matter if you take it a little before or a little after you drop, but I find it's best that you roll said balls sans meth, then when yer comming down and done with all the lovey-dovey bullshit, rail that meth and blowup for a few more hours..
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rotfl@ the lazer puns,
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yeah im talking amphetamine, meth is rare over here in the uk.
its not rocks, its called paste, i belive in the U.S. its called 'peanut butter'??
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I tried sniffing Coke once, but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose.
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[This message has been edited by impulsive_state (edited 14 June 2001).]
 
I've just started doing speed and here's what I have noticed, ...note that I am NOT an expert, I only want to share my experience as a new beginner:
~I find myself craving it and I have to consciously remind myself to use it only on weekends (this was my rule in the beginning)
~I tried it with e, and had a horrible experience coming down. During the experience, I felt great afterwards..yikes..bad. It is highly neurotoxic I found out by the knowledgable ones on bluelight..so never again.
~I concentrate very well the first day I'm up, but concentration goes way, way down after the first day. I wouldn't recommend working on meth..or any drug for that matter. But it is easier to handle than other drugs (my opinion).
~the comedown is horrible ...but it depends how much you do. Depression, for me, is the worst part. Make sure to eat and rest body as much as possible. Protein drinks work for me.
 
Simple Ampthetamines is the shit we get mostly here in Aus, its just weaker than MEthamphetamines. Im not sure how much though. But boy Im going nuts off a point (100mg) of pure ampthetamines.. HATE TO SEE myself on 300mg of meth!! DAM!.
 
I am only going to talk about the comedown issue. The others were covered I believe.
I personally have never had a bad comedown from Meth. Yes, I have been very tired and needed to sleep, but never like I wanted to kill anyone or everyone kind of stuff. I feel much worse after rolling. I think it really depends on your physical well being befoer you use it. If you are fairly heathly, try to eat right and drink water it's not too bad. However, it all depends on how much you do, how many days you do it, the quality etc... You have to be smart and figure out your own limits.
 
Good'eye mate! A dingo stole me baby so I went to the pub and had a Fosters, because thats Austrialian for beeeer.. so I went to the party me mate had, threw some shrimp on the barbie and this girl saw me, she grabed me digeridoo so I fucked her into the neva-neva!
I really don't know why meth is so rare, the only difference in the synth is the precursor.. you guys got so much open space out there in the outback, I would think a lab would be easy to pull off.. if there is a market I might be willing to come and setup a super lab, crank out a few hundred pounds..
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PhreeX - Meth is rare here in the UK.. everyone gets/uses amphetamine, and further to that, you'll never get pure amphetamine (as you would get methamphetamine - hence crystal meth) but rather 10-35% amphetamine
It took 14 months of living in London, where In that time I was able to source just about every other substance I could ever want before I could find meth.
Amphetamine is a very popular drug here, but people are scared of the drug they call "Crystal Meth" and have only heard bad things about it. as such, a friend tried an experiment
He offered someone a "dab" of meth powder (and told them what it was) and they refused. he then offered the same person 25% methamphetamine and said it was base (what we call stronger amphetamine here in the UK)
That person came back and said it was the best speed they had ever tried, to which they were told what it was.
Finally, in London, it tends to come from places formerly known as the USSR.. not from here for some reason.
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Yeah, there is meth in Aus... im looking at some now.
Phreex... normally im inclined to have a bit of fun and return the parody, but with your country its no challenge
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well said jakoz, not really any point is there.
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i think the comedown from speed can be so fucking bad it isnt funny. If i go all out, i sleep 14 hrs a night for like, a week am in a bad mood and unsocialable for like 2 days, and once i start eating again (usully 2 days after) i dont stop.
dude, a half weight should be enough to get you thruogh a whole night with some extra. In case you have no idea what i mean by halg weight, i mean half a gram.
speed+E=awesome, also good on comedown helps you focus a little better. Good for work too, i used to do it all the time.
All i can say though is be VERY careful. As i have been using speed for ages and can go though an 8ball in a weekend, its heaps of fun and can become really psychologically addictive. It gets outta control pretty easily.
By the way, i've also heard rumours that speed does more damage to your head than most other drugs including pills.
theres my contribution,
sublime 4 eva.......
 
There is plenty 'o meth in Aus! Only ignorant dealers often sell it as speed, when in acutal fact it is more likey meth or shabu. Just another hazard of drug street slang I guess...
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tnx for all the reply's
but...
here's another question that i remembered
err 43?) how long will one point (100mg?) roughly last? i know its hard to say as the quality differ's but just as a rough guide
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I tried sniffing Coke once, but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose. :(
 
It's quite impossible to get some methamphetamine around here (Holland) as well. Everybody uses amphetamine and it ain't exactly pure (5-25%). Hell, the last couple of weeks I sniffed a gram a day...the first couple of nights it kept me awake but now I can sleep just fine! Don't think you'll try this with meth...huh?
But...one major advantage: this 'speed' only costs $8 - $10 a gram, and if you're a newbie to it, 0.1 gram will keep you awake! So...not 2 complain i guess...
-greetings
'Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most...'
 
3) if i took some at work would i be able to focus ok? (im a labourer in a stone quarry)
Everyone answered the other questions good enough, but I just wanted to comment on question three...
In my opinion, I think it's a REALLY REALLY bad idea to be on meth when you're laboring in a stone quarry.
 
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