Snorting Herion?

[shal]

I've been an E user for awhile now. Ejoying the highs, having fun, and partying days on end.
Lately I've been thinking about experimenting with Herion. I don't want to become a user, but merely experience the pleasure it brings to the body.
I also dont want to use needles, and I've been told that snorting it is another option.
Has anyone tried this, experience this?, and whats the best way to snort it?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Shal.
PS: Any side affects they people may have had by snorting would also be appreciated...
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[PhreeX]

SEARCH MAN! SEARCH!
Don't worry, you wont get addicted from a weekend of use... you talk about it like it's some big deal, as though the choice to use heroin is differnt from the choice to toke the dank budz or rail some kitty kitty...
Yes, you can snort it.. the powder heroin going around is of a high enough purity level you can get off without having to shoot... what to expect? In a few words - you will be disappointed, because you're probably expecting "10,000 warm, fuzzy orgasams" or a "high so incredible you will become instantly hooked" ... nope, all you get is a mild euphoria and a wave of warmth... it's not "great", it's just, well, it will neutralize all your problems.. it's great at just putting you away from your problems...
So go ahead and snort, if you can, try shooting, the rush really makes it better - btw, the ecstasy you use does far more damageto your body then heroin, which causes no damage to you (when used correctly)..
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[shal]

Thanks for the replies.
You mentioned in the above Post, bumping it.. What exactly does that mean ?
I would like to try it soon. Would I be better to find someone who already does it, and ask them to help?
Cheers,
Shal.
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[Sonny]

well do tell how was it ..if u try it that is...
when i did it the first time i remember vomiting real bad...but after the first time almost never again..

 

[pvc]

Excuse my ignorance but why on earth do you want to start experimenting with heroin?
Isnt that where drugs taken for recreation start becoming drugs taken for dependence?
Isnt heroin also very expensive and dangerous?

 

[DJNeedleBreaker]

It depends on whether or not you think ten bucks is expensive. Are you really naive enough to think that dependence only has to do with certain drugs and that a weekend of use will make you need maintence for the rest of your life?

 

[[u.k neuronauticals inc]]

here we go again.

 

[pvc]

No - havin used certain substances for over 10 years i do know about addiction etc. And i said 'excuse my ignorance' as i have never used heroin as i believe it to be highly addictive and dangerous but i am only going on what i have heard and would therefore appreciate some facts that differ to this.

 

[PhreeX]

PVC has went into this fairly, so we can serve up an answer...
First, heroin is not dangerous when used with caution - hell, smoking some marijuana does more harm to the user then doing a small line of heroin... the mechanisim by which heroin works is 100% harmless... you could use every day for the next 50 years and not "damage your brain" as bad as you would from a weekend of ecstasy use ... yes, you are working with a substance that can aide in a users harm - to much and you can suffer respiratory apnea...
As for addiction - this is 110% THE USER.. it's simple, you use a drug, if you don't have the willpower to resist addiction, then you will find yourself not being able to function without your crutch - heroin is just a drug, it's the USER that creates the addiction.. this isn't to be confused with physical dependence - the reason why when you stop using after a long period of time, you get the shits, aches, etc.. you can be dependant on a drug but not addicited, in fact, there are many non-recreational drugs that the body becomes physically dependant upon...
If you have never used it, I encourage you to give it a shot (haha shot - get it? "shot"? I MADE A PUN!) .. your first time might even have you not wanting to use the drug again, as you might just get sick... it certinly takes a little momentum before you run the risk of addiction, and again, that comes down to *YOU* ...
So this will conclude our lesson on heroin.. lets try to cut back on ignorant statements such as "why on earth do you want to start experimenting with heroin?" ..
On a final note - it's no more expnsive then most any other drug.. you can get enough heroin to last a weekend for $50, or for the cost of 2 beans and a joint...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)

 

[SovietContin]

A month ago, $50 of dope would have last me an entire weekend, Fri-Sun. Now it'd last me about 2 shots within 2 hours of each other after using heroin near daily and then oxycodone when I'm out for about a month straight now.
Space your usage out, keep your tolerance low.

 

[themagicbean]

"Addiction is 110% the user?" perhaps not. people can have genetic/psychological tendencies but once a form of dependence sets in, the ability to choose is gradually stripped away. as for "addiction" being defined differently from "physical (or psychological) dependence," that's a, well, "unique" take on the terminology involved. "addiction" is an unhealthy relationship to a behavior, and when someone is chemically dependent (psych. or phys.), that's an unhealthy relationship with a substance. Dearest moderator PhreeX, please get a DSM-IV and silence those urges to perpetuate misinformation. thanks.
(p.s.: what the hell kind of a message icon is this? it looks like a taco. can someone help me out here?)

 

[PhreeX]

Physical dependance is not in the least a sign of ANYTHING negetive... it simply means the body has become physically dependant on the drug - it happends with blood pressure and AIDS medications, as well as heroin..
As for people with genetic pre-dispositions for addiction - yes, I don't doubt this, but in the end it still comes down to a CHOICE that the USER MAKES .. I have a copy of the DSM-IV, (and someone just posted a link to the online copy too) - it's established that the medical community is STILL torn when it comes to addiction... anyway, back to the point I was making - the user makes a CHOICE and while your family history can act to influance that choice, the user still decided to load that rig once more, or to buy another packet - on the other hand, the user could make the choice to confront the problem and prevent or fight the addiction..
[EDIT - I have also been addicited to a number of substances, so I HAVE been on that side of the fence... and when I look back on it, I realize I got hooked because I chose to do the easy thing... I agree that addiction makes it HARDER to make that choice to walk away, but you're NEVER without it! No matter how hooked you are, you *CAN* make the choice to quit, and yes, that can be painfull, but possible none-the-less... ]
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
[This message has been edited by PhreeX (edited 17 October 2001).]

 

[fairnymph]

First off, I agree that addiction is all about the user...as I have a very strong will (or overactive conscience, however you want to look at it) and have done plenty of drugs, even shot some, and never had the desire to even shoot twice in a night. And as I have obsessive-compulsive disorder, I'm much more prone to addiction than the average user.

Physical dependance is not in the least a sign of ANYTHING negetive.

It sort of depends on how you define the word "negative". It's not necessarily negative in the sense that physical dependance to a number of substances does not harm the body.It is negative, however, in the sense that your body is now no longer self-sufficient (and yes, I know, our bodies are physically dependent on food and water just as much as they ever are on any drug). The more independant you can be from drugs (should the situaion arise that this be necessary), the better, IMHO.