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that_opiate_guy420

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From what I have looked up one 25mg librium(to my understanding) is the same a .5 mg zanny.
1: whould 4 25mg librium me the same as a xanax bar? 2: i have a ritual of smoking pills and my question is if its posible to smoke the powder in a librium capsule.
please nothing negative. i know smoking them is bad an all that other shit.

*stay nodin my friends
 
Hello and welcome, keep posting, keep learning.
1. Would. Your math is correct but I'm not sure if your comparison/conversion is accurate as I have no personal experience with librium.2. Do you smoke Xanax, if so why? I think you would just be doing yourself more damage than needed and wasting a lot of alprazolam. I'm sorry but its hard not to be negative when your asking something so stoopid. Just eat the pills man, what is the point of smoking the shit? Be careful with benzos they are fucking nasty nasty drugs, please don't abuse them. Are you prescribed the benzos?
 
It just my personal preverence. All adicts have the own way of doing things an I was just wondering if it was possibe or just a waste
 
In addition to causing all sorts of damage to your lungs you are wasting most of the drug itself. This is the absolute worse way to consume xanax....the absolute worse. I'd suggest snorting the pill over this and with xanax that would mean you are wasting most of the drug too. -,-

If you want it to kick in faster just place the tablet under your tongue and let it dissolve there and swallow anything left over. That's the only way you should ever be taking this stuff.

Smoking any kind of pill is just plain stupid, it's on par with huffing gas to catch a buzz imho. I'm not trying to be an asshole here either I'm just saying that's how stupid it is and you're doing god knows how much damage to your lungs by smoking that crap. What's even worse is you're not even getting hardly any of the drug itself as most of it is just going to get burned and be useless by the time it gets in your lungs anyway.

Do me a solid OP and stop smoking pills....:(
 
smoking benzos is kind of silly and not that i encourage it but ...
headphones a lot of people really lke smoking roxys.... however i have never heard of even any of those people trying to smoke a xanax its harmful and wasteful
 
I know a lot of people like smoking roxis and oxycontins (well the old ones) but it's a waste of the drug. It was like me snorting certain pills way back when: I was more addicted to the act of doing it than the drug I think. Sure I was getting some of the drug, but I was wasting the majority of it.

Far be it from me to tell people how to do things or call them stupid but when it comes to smoking pills I can't stand by and just watch it go on without saying anything. The inactives in those tablets are _really really_ bad for anyone that smokes them and that's coming from a guy that smokes 25+ Newport 100s a day.

This site is about harm reduction...and smoking pills is just so bad for you I couldn't just click away without saying anything. I apologize if I came off as a dick and for calling the OP stupid (I was calling the act of smoking pills itself stupid, not the OP, but it probably came off the wrong way).
 
OP, you asked for nothing negative...but there's nothing positive, or even neutral, to say. First, as someone struggling to taper off of a 2-year daily, 3-year frequent benzo habit, they're arguably the worst drugs out there, in that they give so little and take so much - including a great many lives, as they're often implicated in opiate overdoses and withdrawal itself can kill. You don't sound terribly experienced, so if you must use benzos recreationally, that treat them with extreme caution: they're more addictive than opiates, and coming off is far worse.

They also can't be smoked. It's a TOTAL waste of the active components in the pills, and any effects are psychosomatic. Some opiate pills may be marginally active when smoked, but torching the binders will require, I'd bet, way too much heat for the actives in most pills to have time to vapourise. But smoking benzos is completely pointless: if you're going to use them, just swallow the pills, snorting or smoking just doesn't work.
 
i dont even think smoking roxy is a good idea, but smoking benzos? they dont even get you euphoric! you might as well be smoking your thorazines and prozacs (that is a joke, don't smoke meds).
 
Dont smoke Benzos. The Bio is big enough taking it orally that killing your lungs is wasteful.
 
Don't smoke any pill. There is seriously no pill that is safe to smoke. Benzodiazepines no less! Just because they're in freebase form doesn't mean that they won't significantly degrade while undergoing pyrolysis due to the massive amount of heat you apply, which melts a bunch of the other compounds and releases likely toxic and certainly carcinogenic gases from plastics and other hydrocarbon based additives.

Smoking pills is asking for emphysema / COPD / lung cancer. OP, no offense, but wake up, your ritual is costing you and your friends your health, your livelihood, your futures, all over a drug that has NO benefit via the inhaled ROA, drugs that have bioavailabilities near 90% taken via the oral or sublingual route. What is so important about your ritual anyways? You guys huddle around smoking pills off foil like your smoking heroin? why

Sorry to break it to you, but I bet only a fraction of the amount of benzodiazepines make it into your bloodstream by smoking your shit compared to the rest of us taking them orally / under the tongue. The sublingual route of administration has a faster onset than oral, and often slight bioavailability gains, but there are some drugs, like diazepam, which naturally have a longer period of onset, regardless of the ROA.
 
tricomb said:
The sublingual route of administration has a faster onset than oral, and often slight bioavailability gains, but there are some drugs, like diazepam, which naturally have a longer period of onset, regardless of the ROA.
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This is best for most benzos. Or just eating them. Attempting to smoke them is like attempting to get maximum harm for minimum effect. Take a step back and it makes no sense.

Perhaps you've done other things in the past that are better smoked and as such have developed a fixation to smoking, but rest assured benzos are not those other things.
 
It is just harming your lungs and like others have pointed out, it's wasting the pill. I got into snorting oxys back in the day. It's the route of administration that you love the most. Try putting it under your tongue or sucking on the pill if you can stand the taste.
 
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Hello and welcome, keep posting, keep learning.
1. Would. Your math is correct but I'm not sure if your comparison/conversion is accurate as I have no personal experience with librium.2. Do you smoke Xanax, if so why? I think you would just be doing yourself more damage than needed and wasting a lot of alprazolam. I'm sorry but its hard not to be negative when your asking something so stoopid. Just eat the pills man, what is the point of smoking the shit? Be careful with benzos they are fucking nasty nasty drugs, please don't abuse them. Are you prescribed the benzos?
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While I agree with most of your post, you used the wrong form of "you're" and you misspelled stupid. Just felt the need to point that out. ;)

Also, benzodiazepines aren't "nasty[,] nasty" drugs. When used properly they're very useful and are in fact some of the safest drugs out there (in terms of therapeutic dose:lethal/damaging dose).
 
Bloody hell swallow it with a hot drink. Takes 20 mins to kick in. If u can't wait 20 mins, you got problems. Benzos are a crap drug, cause really long nasty withdrawals. When abused cause blackouts and people don't know wat they are doing
 
Jktm said:
While I agree with most of your post, you used the wrong form of "you're" and you misspelled stupid. Just felt the need to point that out. ;)

Also, benzodiazepines aren't "nasty[,] nasty" drugs. When used properly they're very useful and are in fact some of the safest drugs out there (in terms of therapeutic dose:lethal/damaging dose).
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True dat. But even used 'properly', they're amongst the most addictive drugs in the Physician's Desk Reference, and a nightmare to get off of: and just because so many of us develop high-dose habits doesn't change the fact that some people can become physically addicted and experience severe withdrawal from relatively low doses. I've read first-hand reports on this site of people throwing grand mal seizures after abrupt cessation of just a few weeks of daily use at thereapeutic doses. They have the potential to be as nasty as anything out there - I've kicked junk several times, and it's an orgasmic experience compared to benzo withdrawal.
 
I'll agree with you on the harshness of the w/d as I was cut off 4mg clonaz/alpraz (the alpraz was in an institute; not both at the same time) without taper, but thankfully didn't have seizures. Benzos are a helluva lot safer than barbiturates though. Good thing they came up with valium to replace those bastards.
 
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