EveryStar
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I UTFSE and did see a thread asking a similar question, but that thread was more focused on which is more addictive, dangerous, etc. Here I am simply asking, to those who have at least some experience with both (meaning, ranging from those who've tried both ROAs a few times, most likely on scarce, infrequent occasions, to full-blown addicts using daily, or ex-addicts who have had plenty of experience with both, or tons of experience with just one of them, but have still experimented with the other, at least enough to have a good grip and understanding of the differences and similarities between both drugs (well, as everyone knows, they are essentially the same drug derived from the exact same plant, they just differ in the way they are manufactured; one is a salt: cocaine hydrochloride, the other is a base form of the drug: crack/freebase. Finally, they also differ in their mode of administration: you can't snort crack, you can't smoke coke)).
In this thread however, I'm specifically talking about smoked crack and intravenous pwoder cocaine, nothing else. Not shot crack, not half-assed attempts at smoking powder off foil (I mention this because I've seen a few people ask, or talk about this technique of smoking cocaine HCl, even though it's a total waste and ver yuncommon), and certainly not snorted powder. Smoked crack (not freebase), and injected powder cocaine only.
So, between these two, which do you prefer, overall? I'm talking not just euphoria or rush, I mean with all the factors taken into account: enjoyment, euphoria, duration of high, etc; just basically, if you were sitting at a table with a ball of coke and a pack of rigs (+ spoon, cotton and water/saline of course) on one side, and a ball of rocks, with an unbreakable Pyrex stem, a lighter and a wad of Chore Boy on the other side, and you could only pick one of the two, which would you choose?
I've been wondering about this lately, having both shot plenty of coke and smoked a satisfactory amount of crack over the last two weeks (with the very seldom, occasional shot of crack at times), due to finally being financially stable and with the freedom to binge for a night or two (without violently murdering my wallet in a bloody feud, and not having to pawn or steal a damn thing despite spending over 300 bucks in 2-3 days), I had the opportunity to shoot plenty of coke, do plenty of speedballs, and smoke plenty of crack over a 2-3 day "party" (which is over now, it was fun while it lasted but it was time to get back to the real world), I eventually concluded that a night of crack-smoking is much more enjoyable (and also much less dangerous) than a night spent slamming powder.
Shooting coke is, first of all, only an option if you get good coke not cut with tons of water-insoluble cuts that make it impossible to draw up the freaking solution (and if you're unlucky enough to land on that sort of yay, even if you manage to draw up the solution, it'l usually be cloudy and will easily clog the needle). Then there's the issue of getting a good shot off without missing after your 2nd/3rd shot, where your veins are already super constricted due to cocaine's vasoconstriction effects. Then, when you do manage to finally pull off a perfect, no-miss shot (which can be tough with coke, since you don't feel anything if you're missing, unlike with dope, where it immediately stings if you're not in a vein), there's the other issue of health problems, as IV coke is easily, in my humble opinion, the easiest way to kill yourself out of any other recreational drug (by overdosing (in contrast to indirectly dying because of a drug, i.e. drinking and driving), which is very, very easy to do in comparison to pretty much every other abusable, recreational drug, fatal ODs due to intravenous cocaine use are so much easier to achieve than pretty much any other popular IV drug, like heroin or meth, both of which I have experience with, but never once have I ever had the feeling I was on the verge of leaving this world, while IV coke has given me that "Oh shit am I gonna die" feeling more than a dozen times, and given me the pleasant treat of having a few really close calls with the Grim Reaper).
Smoking crack, however, gives me a pleasant, albeit less intense high (than shooting powder), and is just more enjoyable overall. If you're not a total crackhead who graduated from Basehead University magna cum laude, smoking a few rocks on a quiet evening by yourself can be quite enjoyable, and a lot easier to hide any signs of crack usage from others, as opposed to arms that look like Hiroshima circa 1945 after a single night of IV coke (seriously, even a junkie with a 34 year long dope habit has better looking arms than someone who just spent 12 hours shooting coke non-stop). That is, as long as you wash your hands after you're done, and wipe your lips (chapstick along with that is also quite useful), splash a little water on your face, and just basically spend a few minutes cleaning up your act, no one will be able to tell about your naughty deeds of the evening past (as opposed to walking around the house at 6 in the morning with saucer pupils, burnt lips covered full of blue/black nasty shit, dirty black hands, fingers and fingernails).
Also, crack is much cheaper and less fiendish overall than IV coke (40 bucks for like 15-20 fat hits of rock, plus a bunch of resin left afterwards when you reach that miserable moment where you just exhaled the last bit of smoke from that last rock, versus 40 bucks for 6-8, maybe 10-12 (if you get real pure powder, even a little more) good shots; or of course, 40 bucks could also be 40 small, pussy hits of crack and 20 tiny unsatisfying blasts of powder, it all depends on how you roll, I lean more towards the former).
Anyways, the point is, I think smoked crack cocaine is a more enjoyable experience as a whole then intravenous powder cocaine: less dangerous, less fiendish, easier to conceal (concealing the high, not the drug itself...although it does make me paranoid sometimes, kind of like with cannabis, where you tend to think everyone knows what you're up to), and (at least for me), usually lasts longer; for example, I bought nearly a gram of rock (maybe 0.8/0.9, since I spent 5 dollars less than what a full gram costs; I won't disclose any prices since BL rules dictate that this is forbidden outside of the official yearly price thread), and in close to 3 hours sitting at my desk, pipe and film canister containing the rocks sitting a few inches away (I've found film canisters to be the best storage device for crack, only bested by glass vials with screw-on caps, but I've never seen those anywhere, in any headsho; small and portable, doesn't accidentally smoosh the crack in your pocket/sock/underpants like plastic bags do, and doesn't stick to the sides), I've taken like 6-8 big hits off two good chunks of rock (pre-melted onto the choy first, of course, meaning I get a good 2 to 4 hits off each piece I load up, each subsequent hit obviously a little weaker than the previous one), maybe 1/3rd of my whole stash, and I've been spacing these hits over 1 hour apart each.
It's very satisfying this way, because each hit actually gets you back to cloud nine, as opposed to taking 10 back-to-back hits in a row and finishing that 50 dollar set of rocks within the hour and crashing hard, instead you take a few very big hits, until you feel satisfied (yes, there is such a thing as being satisfied on crack), then put the stem down and get absorbed into something (in this case, for me it's typing this message at the moment), so much so that it's possible to forget about the crack. On the other hand, if you're sitting by yourself, in an empty room with nothing interesting to do, no one to talk to, you'll find yourself loading up the pipe literally every 12 seconds at times. I used to think crack was a drug that you couldn't do and then enjoy doing other activities (meaning, it seemed as if the only activity to do while high on crack, is smoke more crack), until recently, where all my latest experiences with the drug have been much more productive, enjoyable, and less "fiendy."
I used to be the type that would take a hit and then just stare at the clock counting down the seconds till my next hit; now I don't even do that anymore, if I take a few big enough hits in quick succession, I can be high for nearly 1h30-2h without even staring at the clock once, kind of like with meth. It's awesome.
However, with IV coke, no matter what I'm always fiending for another shot within the hour, and as the night progresses, and my arms turn into pincushions (then my wrists, and pretty soon my hands), I still can't go 30 minutes without thinking about that next shot. And usually with IV coke, when I do get a shot perfectly with no miss (after the 2nd-3rd shot, it turns into a nightmare to properly IV without missing), it's never, ever as satisfying as the first two, maybe three or four shots of the night. With crack, though, as long as you load up the same amount every time, every single hit, from the first to the last is almost as satisfactory and fulfilling as the previous one (but of course, as with any drug that produces any sort of rush, the first hit is always the best.
Cliffsnotes: I have plenty of experience with both smoked crack and IV powder, and I definitely think that crack is more enjoyable and euphoric overall, albeit less intense, than IV coke. It also has much less health risks associated with it, and there isn't such a fine line between a good high and death, as there is with IV coke.
Bottom line: if you're ever thinking, or ever consider trying one of the two, stick with the rocks, please. Less fiendy, less dangerous, less intense, less scary, more fun, more enjoyable, and won't send you to the ER as quickly. Of course, both are terrible, life-ruining drugs, but IMO, smoked crack is the lesser of the two evils. In addition, crack is almost always more pure than street powder cocaine, and you can be sure there are no amphetamines (or most other typical cuts that ruin the powder coke high, like epedrine, caffeine, etc) in your crack, and even if there were, they'd vaporize the instant you put a flame to it. Of course, everybody is different, YMMV, this is just my own experience, some people might try IV coke and hate it, but hit the pipe once and suck the glass dick for the rest of their (probably short) lives.
I UTFSE and did see a thread asking a similar question, but that thread was more focused on which is more addictive, dangerous, etc. Here I am simply asking, to those who have at least some experience with both (meaning, ranging from those who've tried both ROAs a few times, most likely on scarce, infrequent occasions, to full-blown addicts using daily, or ex-addicts who have had plenty of experience with both, or tons of experience with just one of them, but have still experimented with the other, at least enough to have a good grip and understanding of the differences and similarities between both drugs (well, as everyone knows, they are essentially the same drug derived from the exact same plant, they just differ in the way they are manufactured; one is a salt: cocaine hydrochloride, the other is a base form of the drug: crack/freebase. Finally, they also differ in their mode of administration: you can't snort crack, you can't smoke coke)).
In this thread however, I'm specifically talking about smoked crack and intravenous pwoder cocaine, nothing else. Not shot crack, not half-assed attempts at smoking powder off foil (I mention this because I've seen a few people ask, or talk about this technique of smoking cocaine HCl, even though it's a total waste and ver yuncommon), and certainly not snorted powder. Smoked crack (not freebase), and injected powder cocaine only.
So, between these two, which do you prefer, overall? I'm talking not just euphoria or rush, I mean with all the factors taken into account: enjoyment, euphoria, duration of high, etc; just basically, if you were sitting at a table with a ball of coke and a pack of rigs (+ spoon, cotton and water/saline of course) on one side, and a ball of rocks, with an unbreakable Pyrex stem, a lighter and a wad of Chore Boy on the other side, and you could only pick one of the two, which would you choose?
I've been wondering about this lately, having both shot plenty of coke and smoked a satisfactory amount of crack over the last two weeks (with the very seldom, occasional shot of crack at times), due to finally being financially stable and with the freedom to binge for a night or two (without violently murdering my wallet in a bloody feud, and not having to pawn or steal a damn thing despite spending over 300 bucks in 2-3 days), I had the opportunity to shoot plenty of coke, do plenty of speedballs, and smoke plenty of crack over a 2-3 day "party" (which is over now, it was fun while it lasted but it was time to get back to the real world), I eventually concluded that a night of crack-smoking is much more enjoyable (and also much less dangerous) than a night spent slamming powder.
Shooting coke is, first of all, only an option if you get good coke not cut with tons of water-insoluble cuts that make it impossible to draw up the freaking solution (and if you're unlucky enough to land on that sort of yay, even if you manage to draw up the solution, it'l usually be cloudy and will easily clog the needle). Then there's the issue of getting a good shot off without missing after your 2nd/3rd shot, where your veins are already super constricted due to cocaine's vasoconstriction effects. Then, when you do manage to finally pull off a perfect, no-miss shot (which can be tough with coke, since you don't feel anything if you're missing, unlike with dope, where it immediately stings if you're not in a vein), there's the other issue of health problems, as IV coke is easily, in my humble opinion, the easiest way to kill yourself out of any other recreational drug (by overdosing (in contrast to indirectly dying because of a drug, i.e. drinking and driving), which is very, very easy to do in comparison to pretty much every other abusable, recreational drug, fatal ODs due to intravenous cocaine use are so much easier to achieve than pretty much any other popular IV drug, like heroin or meth, both of which I have experience with, but never once have I ever had the feeling I was on the verge of leaving this world, while IV coke has given me that "Oh shit am I gonna die" feeling more than a dozen times, and given me the pleasant treat of having a few really close calls with the Grim Reaper).
Smoking crack, however, gives me a pleasant, albeit less intense high (than shooting powder), and is just more enjoyable overall. If you're not a total crackhead who graduated from Basehead University magna cum laude, smoking a few rocks on a quiet evening by yourself can be quite enjoyable, and a lot easier to hide any signs of crack usage from others, as opposed to arms that look like Hiroshima circa 1945 after a single night of IV coke (seriously, even a junkie with a 34 year long dope habit has better looking arms than someone who just spent 12 hours shooting coke non-stop). That is, as long as you wash your hands after you're done, and wipe your lips (chapstick along with that is also quite useful), splash a little water on your face, and just basically spend a few minutes cleaning up your act, no one will be able to tell about your naughty deeds of the evening past (as opposed to walking around the house at 6 in the morning with saucer pupils, burnt lips covered full of blue/black nasty shit, dirty black hands, fingers and fingernails).
Also, crack is much cheaper and less fiendish overall than IV coke (40 bucks for like 15-20 fat hits of rock, plus a bunch of resin left afterwards when you reach that miserable moment where you just exhaled the last bit of smoke from that last rock, versus 40 bucks for 6-8, maybe 10-12 (if you get real pure powder, even a little more) good shots; or of course, 40 bucks could also be 40 small, pussy hits of crack and 20 tiny unsatisfying blasts of powder, it all depends on how you roll, I lean more towards the former).
Anyways, the point is, I think smoked crack cocaine is a more enjoyable experience as a whole then intravenous powder cocaine: less dangerous, less fiendish, easier to conceal (concealing the high, not the drug itself...although it does make me paranoid sometimes, kind of like with cannabis, where you tend to think everyone knows what you're up to), and (at least for me), usually lasts longer; for example, I bought nearly a gram of rock (maybe 0.8/0.9, since I spent 5 dollars less than what a full gram costs; I won't disclose any prices since BL rules dictate that this is forbidden outside of the official yearly price thread), and in close to 3 hours sitting at my desk, pipe and film canister containing the rocks sitting a few inches away (I've found film canisters to be the best storage device for crack, only bested by glass vials with screw-on caps, but I've never seen those anywhere, in any headsho; small and portable, doesn't accidentally smoosh the crack in your pocket/sock/underpants like plastic bags do, and doesn't stick to the sides), I've taken like 6-8 big hits off two good chunks of rock (pre-melted onto the choy first, of course, meaning I get a good 2 to 4 hits off each piece I load up, each subsequent hit obviously a little weaker than the previous one), maybe 1/3rd of my whole stash, and I've been spacing these hits over 1 hour apart each.
It's very satisfying this way, because each hit actually gets you back to cloud nine, as opposed to taking 10 back-to-back hits in a row and finishing that 50 dollar set of rocks within the hour and crashing hard, instead you take a few very big hits, until you feel satisfied (yes, there is such a thing as being satisfied on crack), then put the stem down and get absorbed into something (in this case, for me it's typing this message at the moment), so much so that it's possible to forget about the crack. On the other hand, if you're sitting by yourself, in an empty room with nothing interesting to do, no one to talk to, you'll find yourself loading up the pipe literally every 12 seconds at times. I used to think crack was a drug that you couldn't do and then enjoy doing other activities (meaning, it seemed as if the only activity to do while high on crack, is smoke more crack), until recently, where all my latest experiences with the drug have been much more productive, enjoyable, and less "fiendy."
I used to be the type that would take a hit and then just stare at the clock counting down the seconds till my next hit; now I don't even do that anymore, if I take a few big enough hits in quick succession, I can be high for nearly 1h30-2h without even staring at the clock once, kind of like with meth. It's awesome.
However, with IV coke, no matter what I'm always fiending for another shot within the hour, and as the night progresses, and my arms turn into pincushions (then my wrists, and pretty soon my hands), I still can't go 30 minutes without thinking about that next shot. And usually with IV coke, when I do get a shot perfectly with no miss (after the 2nd-3rd shot, it turns into a nightmare to properly IV without missing), it's never, ever as satisfying as the first two, maybe three or four shots of the night. With crack, though, as long as you load up the same amount every time, every single hit, from the first to the last is almost as satisfactory and fulfilling as the previous one (but of course, as with any drug that produces any sort of rush, the first hit is always the best.
Cliffsnotes: I have plenty of experience with both smoked crack and IV powder, and I definitely think that crack is more enjoyable and euphoric overall, albeit less intense, than IV coke. It also has much less health risks associated with it, and there isn't such a fine line between a good high and death, as there is with IV coke.
Bottom line: if you're ever thinking, or ever consider trying one of the two, stick with the rocks, please. Less fiendy, less dangerous, less intense, less scary, more fun, more enjoyable, and won't send you to the ER as quickly. Of course, both are terrible, life-ruining drugs, but IMO, smoked crack is the lesser of the two evils. In addition, crack is almost always more pure than street powder cocaine, and you can be sure there are no amphetamines (or most other typical cuts that ruin the powder coke high, like epedrine, caffeine, etc) in your crack, and even if there were, they'd vaporize the instant you put a flame to it. Of course, everybody is different, YMMV, this is just my own experience, some people might try IV coke and hate it, but hit the pipe once and suck the glass dick for the rest of their (probably short) lives.
