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Sleep Deprivation and Psilocybin (amsterdam dragon's dynamite truffles)

TruffulaTree

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Hey whatsup guys. New poster here, glad to be here %)


So here's the deal. I'm in amsterdam, and I've just picked up 15 grams of "dragon's dynamite" psilocybe truffles at a smartshop. They've been sitting in my room for about a day and I was planning to take them later tonight. It's looking like tonight is going to be the only opportunity I have for weeks, and I think they will have gone bad if I leave them sitting around for a couple weeks.
I've had 3 previous experiences with psilocybe truffles, all of which have been very rewarding but slightly weaker strands of truffles. I've also always been well rested.

Here's my problem: I was expecting to get a good night's rest last night, but like a dumbass, I took some 4FMP (4fluoroamphetamine) pills with a friend and I couldn't get to sleep all night, so I'm running on empty right now. I feel fine at the moment, but it's only 7:30 A.M. If I want to take the truffles tonight, is the fact that I missed a night's sleep going to fuck with my trip?

Also, on another note, for anyone who has had experience with the dragon truffles, do you think it would be a good choice for me to do them in the vondelpark during the day rather than in my room at night? I have never tripped outside and I hear it's great, but these are the strongest truffles that I have ever done so I don't want to bite off more than I can chew by tripping in a fairly public place.

Thanks in advance!

TruffulaTree
 
yeah that's what I was afraid of...I might do them anyways against my better judgment haha, just because I shelled out like <snip> euro for them so it seems pointless to waste them.

But do you think it would be a better idea to do them outside in a park during midday or in my room closer to midnight?

my only concern about my room is that I would be crashing harder at that point because I will have gone longer without sleep

maybe I'll see if I can take a nap this afternoon....
 
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Most people find it very hard to fall asleep while tripping, at least without any sort of chemical help - it's hard to shut your mind off when all your senses are at full volume.

Doing a large dose of truffles while sleep deprived & still recovering from 4FMA is just asking for a hellish 6-8 hour storm of mental and sensory overload. Especially if you do it in public.
Unless you want to feel totally strung out, and very fucked up - get some sleep and save it for another day. You're probably not even feeling the comedown from the 4FMA yet.

At the very least, try and get a 2-4 hour power nap in. Even then, psychedelics are always better with a full night's rest.
 
ok, thanks, so I did the 4FMA at around 1:00 P.M. yesterday, and I feel pretty much at baseline now, although there are tiny little things that would suggest that I'm at the end of my comedown. Do you think that if I took a power nap as you suggested this afternoon, and then chilled out much later at night in my room to take the truffles, I would have a good experience, or would I still, as you put it, have a "hellish 6-8 hour storm of mental and sensory overload" ??

thanks in advance for all the advice
 
You'd have a much better chance having a good trip after a nap than if you had stayed up for 30+ hours. No questions.
 
also, I can imagine that falling asleep on psilocybin would be amazing

when you are on mushrooms you are already in a waking dream type feeling so sleep is impossible for me at least

tripping after not getting any sleep on lsd for the first time triggered a manic break from reality.

sleep keeps you sane. the potential for it to go wrong is high especially if the 4fa starts to cause a comedown
 
okay, thanks for all the advice guys. I took a nap this afternoon which lasted about 2 hours (I set my alarm for 4 hours but I woke up after 2), and I feel pretty good. went for a walk outside (it's beautiful in amsterdam right now), and reflected on a lot of stuff, got me into the mood. Watched richard linklater's Waking Life. Made a great trip playlist. Should be fun! :)
 
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