Sleep Aid: Phenibut & GHB Cross Tolerance?

[siege]

Hi all, first post here Firstly a thanks to the community here, I've been lurking around for a while and found the forum to be an invaluable resource%)

I suffer from genral anxiety related insomnia. I'm perscribed temazapam 20mg and Diazepam 40mg both of which inhibit my capacity to function properly the next day.

Whilst researching alternatives come across both Phenibut and GHB as possible alternatives.

I am thinking of using GHB twice per week at a dosage of 1g and Phenibut once per week at a dosage of 1g.


Three questions:

1) Is this safe?
2) Has anyone noted cross tolerance. (Both have some action on GABA B)
3) Are there any "ADVERSE" sexual side effects I need to be aware (some people say GHB makes you horny, but, i mean can give you erectile dysfunction or anything of the like)



Stats: 33 Year old male 6ft 180lb non smoker, not very fit.

Thanks

 

[Bob Loblaw]

~~>ODp

 

[siege]

~~>ODp

lol..... OD?

From from 1g GHB or Phenibut?

 

[Flaga121]

It got moved to other drugs sir.

 

[siege]

:D Oh, I see. Thanks

 

[sekio]

Phenibut and GHB should be cross tolerant, they share activity at GABA-B like you said.

Using GHB at ~1 gram every few days is not enough to be concerned with, because it's metabolised rather fast. It shouldn't cause any lasting dysfunction but sometimes people find it hard to sleep on it, or hard to stay asleep for more than a few hours.

Phenibut is more sedating but it does also last longer than GHB.

 

[《Plasticity》]

I would imagine that you would be able to get away with no problems if you stick to your plan and space things apart right. I would personally give at least 2-3 days after phenibut to take any GHB as they are indeed cross-tolerant (well in theory at least) and phenibut seems to last quite a while and at least 1-2 days in between GHB doses as this stuff gets eaten up pretty damn fast, point is you wanna wait till one drug is completely metabolised before you should even think of ingesting the other.

 

[black53]

I don't think 1g of ghb twice per week + 1g of phenibut will cause considerable increases of tolerance at those doses&frequencies. GHB can make it harder to finish, but I doubt you'll see this from 1g. I also don't think it'll be that effective if you use 20mg temazepam + 40mg diazepam for sleep righ now. For what is worth, I consider ghb the best sleep aid there is and back in the days of UK legal GBL when the net was full of cheap quality GBL used it almost daily for sleep. One dose of 4-5g. Never got addicted, never saw an increase in tollerance, that happened mostly to the people who dosed 24/7 (and it's easy to start since it feels so good and was so cheap). Not that I'm not advocating you use ghb daily for sleep nor can I guarantee it would not give you addiction problems, just sharing my experience with it.

 

[siege]

Thanks for your responses guys, this has been a great help

@blak53.... Yeah I've stopped the temaz and diaz altogether, side effects aren't worth it %)