Sinicuichi

[Voxide]

What kind of effects do people get from different doses? Half of the people on Erowid say they have either achieved the supposed effects (Yellow tint around vision, deepened sounds) while the other half got nothing and were left with terrible muscle pains. I found out this might have to do with the dosage. 5 grams infused into a tea is the active dose. Those that got the negative effects were doing 10-20 grams. Anybody have anything to say? What other drugs can give a change of color in your whole field of vision?

 

[Mysterie]

from what ive read, if you have dry leaves then you should smoke it and that shouldnt result in muscle pains

if you have fresh leaves then make a tea and ferment it in the sun, if you do this correctly then people say you shouldnt get muscle pains and the experiance would be more intense than when smoked

not sure about dosages

and mushrooms can cause your field of vision to go different colours

 

[Voxide]

from what ive read, if you have dry leaves then you should smoke it and that shouldnt result in muscle pains

if you have fresh leaves then make a tea and ferment it in the sun, if you do this correctly then people say you shouldnt get muscle pains and the experiance would be more intense than when smoked

not sure about dosages

and mushrooms can cause your field of vision to go different colours

I've heard that smoking is ineffective. Fresh leaves would be tough to acquire. Probably going to have to buy seeds and grow a plant.

Also, nice. Never knew that.

 

[theotherside]

I had an experience with it that almost killed me...or at least that is what it felt like. I prepared it the "right" way, and was waiting for the "sun to open up"....yeah right. It opened up flu-in-a-bottle. Tight chest, stomach cramps, sore body all over. Worst drug mistake of my life hands down. Proceed with caution my friend!!

 

[radric davis]

I tried making Tea and extracts from this stuff and did expereince the muscle pains and soreness. Didn't really feel like something my body appreciated.

 

[StaySedated]

i heard this stuff acts as a deliriant so i've never tried it.

doesn't sound like its getting much praise though.

 

[Voxide]

I had an experience with it that almost killed me...or at least that is what it felt like. I prepared it the "right" way, and was waiting for the "sun to open up"....yeah right. It opened up flu-in-a-bottle. Tight chest, stomach cramps, sore body all over. Worst drug mistake of my life hands down. Proceed with caution my friend!!

I tried making Tea and extracts from this stuff and did expereince the muscle pains and soreness. Didn't really feel like something my body appreciated.

These seem to be the most common side effects. What I'm having trouble understanding is why some people get the pains and others actually get effects. I'd love to try some out if it was guaranteed that the "sun would open".

i heard this stuff acts as a deliriant so i've never tried it.

doesn't sound like its getting much praise though.

Pretty sure it's classified as an auditory hallucinogen. I've heard of an anti-cholinergic chemical in there also, however.