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Opioids Shooting up salt?

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Shooting morphine ERs requires using salt to break down the gel matrix. For some fucking odd reason there is no table salt in this house -_- however I found sea salt and Morton salt. the morton salt also contains calcium silicate. Is it safe to put SEA SALT or CALCIUM SILICATE in my viens?

Please just answer my question, I realize shooting up is bad and there are harmful chemicals in the pills themselves. I just want to know if either salt is safe.
 
morton salt is best - the calcium silicate is present in only trace amounts, to make the salt clump-free.

saline solution is only ever 0.9% weight in volume
 
how does the salt help breakdown ER morphine preparations? can you tell me the facts behind that please? never heard such a thing before and doesn't make any sense to be albeit i'm not exactly chemically minded. so if you could explain that would be great :)

i've never really noticed a difference between tap/bottled water vs saline when prepping MSContin when it comes to gelling. i really don't experience any gelling apart from when i'm using a smaller amount of water for plugging or i let the mixture sit after stirring it. then it gels up.
 
I read it on a post either here or drug-forum. I have the green morphine 30s. They gel horribly, I ended up losing one earlier pretty much. The tek says heat and salt breaks it down, and in the past it hasnt really failed me
 
but you can't believe everything you hear. and you're making a huge mistake by adding heat as it only breaking down the wax matrix, having it precipitate back into the end solution and into your veins if it hasn't had a chance to cool down before filtering anything.

the rule is you don't add heat to any pills. and although morphine sulphate isn't extremely water soluble in terms of mg per mL, it's still easily absorbed into the water with a little stir.
 
tentram said:
but you can't believe everything you hear. and you're making a huge mistake by adding heat as it only breaking down the wax matrix, having it precipitate back into the end solution and into your veins if it hasn't had a chance to cool down before filtering anything.

the rule is you don't add heat to any pills. and although morphine sulphate isn't extremely water soluble in terms of mg per mL, it's still easily absorbed into the water with a little stir.
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Morphine is higly soluble in cold water. Adding salt will make the mixture not safe for intraveinous injection. Adding close to freezing water and stir should transfer the morphine into the water in a quick time, crushing into really fine water is the only solution to get most of the active ingredient. Heating will help the binding transfer into the water and the temperature won't be the ideal for the morphine to transfer.
 
As to salt being used to break down any pill... I've never heard of such a thing but it makes zero sense.

As far as it being safe to IV though, yes it is, as long as the ratio of salt/water isn't extreme. That's what a typical saline solution is. No big deal.
 
I personally did this with super Gelly MS Contin.
Crush the Pil to fine powder, and add to a spoon Without Water.

Then I hold a lighter under neath and heat the crushed pill and stir it so it doesn't burn...be sure not to burn it. I get it to a nice kind of golden brown colour, like Heroin.

At this point if you take a little powder between your fingers you will notice a huge difference in texture.

I then Transfer the powder to a clean and very importantly COOL spoon (if its warm the pill wil gel).

Then I add 1.2-1.3 cc's of ICE COLD Water. Preferably sterile obviously

Stir and smash real quick (work fast) throw in a Filter and suck it into a 1 cc rig. should fill up almost perfect with very minimal gelling if any.If you have a micron filter use it.( I know alot of us dont, but they are a great investment.)

I used to use 100 mg tablets with this method.It seems like 3 30's would gel much worse then one 100 mg tab...must be because there's more gelling agent or w/e.

But give this one a try man. remember Crisp pill to nice light brown colour,then mix with ice cold water and filter QUICKLY!
 
Morphine is not highly soluble in water, it's 60mg/ml as far as I can remember. Mind how much water you're using, or you're wasting your morphine sulphate.
 
mrflowers00 said:
i don't think it's safe to put any salt in your veins
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Actually, not true. Sodium chloride is present in your blood as is.

You shouldn't be using an insane amount of it obviously, but if you are injecting often enough, it behooves you to be using bacteriostatic water that has sodium chloride in it to replicate the salt content of your blood.
 
As someone who's taken morphine for over 10 years in every conceivable way...

Morphine Sulphate pills are not broken down by table salt. You want to use sterile USP grade bacteriostatic saline to get some sodium chloride in your solution for whatever reason? FINE. I ASSURE YOU it makes ZERO difference in the outcome of the shot.

I don't know what kind of crack/meth head/ innocent uninformed horrible source of information you obtained this idea from, but it's unnecessary.

As the saying goes, "JUST ADD WATER". And NO HEAT.
 
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Well I'm in severe opioid withdrawal so if there was sleep involved, yeah I would have woken up on the wrong side of the bed. Turkey was served cold morning after morning. You know how it gets around the 72-96h mark when theres nada on your receptors.

I didn't mean to yell at you OP, I'm sorry for being frustrated, I just think it's EXTREMELY important that you don't try to inject salt thinking it does something to break down the WAX time release. It makes no logical sense, sorry again OP, et al :)
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Actually, not true. Sodium chloride is present in your blood as is.

You shouldn't be using an insane amount of it obviously, but if you are injecting often enough, it behooves you to be using bacteriostatic water that has sodium chloride in it to replicate the salt content of your blood.
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Captain H said it. The sterile water vials at needle exchanges or other sources of saline solution intended for IV use have 0.9% NaCl (salt) as it is the average amount found in the blood of an average healthy human being. Anything sufficiently above that margin will mess up osmotic pressure in the cells in your body, either causing cell dehydration or other adverse effects, as osmosis is the primary process in which cells take in and release water. So don't inject too much salt.
 
Perhaps this rumor(?) about the salt comes from ion-resin release systems of morphine containing pharmaceuticals (like the little adderall balls, kadian has a similar system I believe...) . It makes a bit of sense to use salt to change the osmotic enviroment of the morphine beads drawing morphine out into the solution. From what I understand from ion-resin release systems, acid in the stomach in the catalyst for the reaction.... Following that logic a dilute acid may work in a similar manner.

What were the exact kinda morphine you were trying to crack open, OP?
 
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