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Heroin shooting opiates: troubles with blood pieces in the rig

southeast

southeast

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Hey, I am new so I am sorry to just jump in BUT I really need some help. I used to always let this guy shoot for me-- for almost two years, but he was abusive/etc. and now I really need to get this down on my own so I will not be reliant on someone like that. If I pull up and get some blood in the rig then it rolls or for whatever reason cannot push in and after a minute with no more luck the blood gets all clumpy I know that you are supposed to throw it out. But I am an idiot and just filtered it with a cotton which got all that out and used it after... I think I am in the clear for this time but has anyone had trouble with this? Should I never filter and use the same solution again? There was none of that in it anymore... I just don't want to clot and die... I know I am an addict but I do not want to die. Thanks!
Please please help!
 
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It takes much longer than just a minute or two. You do not have to throw out your shot if you registered but couldn't finish the injection. Transferring it to another syringe is good idea solely for the reason that you want to use a fresh needle for every IV if you can, but many addicts (myself included) sometimes take a long time to hit, especially when your veins start to go and it becomes harder to register. As long as you don't IV a shot with blood in it that has been sitting around for days you are fine.
 
So long as your useing a new needle and not re-using a needle with bits of dried blood in it (or reusing a needle full stop!) You will be fine.
Dont worry about the couple of minutes that blood will be in the barrel if you choose to re-site the shot. Its better that you take your time and get it right rather then rushing and missing your shot or playing about with the shot and risking infection.
 
Thanks guys! Sorry it took me a minute to respond, I just moved and it took me a while to get my computer stuff unpacked plus for some reason this site doesn't work on my phone. I went and got new rigs, do y'all really never re-use at all? I am trying to start reusing less and I know its dangerous... I've had to have a broken off needle removed at a hospital and an abcess... But y'all never re-use? Do y'all ever get the more solid looking blood particles? My boyfriend never really does but my blood seems to clot/coagulate really quick.
 
Most of the users on here are using fresh rigs as much as possible. It really cant be stressed enough how important it is.
The complications youve experienced are the lesser ones, some really horrific complications (like gangrene or amputation) could be in your future is you dot clean up your needle practices.
 
I shoot my subutex and suboxone twice a day. Once in the morning and once at night. I use a new needle for every single shot. I have to buy a new bag of syringes every 4-5 days or so. But I've been shooting up for almost 10 years(the first 6 was heroin and oxyand the last 4 years on and off has been bupe and sometimes coke and the occasional oxy here and there) and I have only ever lost 1 vein, and it ended up coming back about a year after I thought it collapsed. Rotate injection sites, micron filter, and always always always use a new needle no matter what. It will really save you in the long run...and you won't end up having horrid tracks. Almost 10 years of shooting daily and it doesn't look like I've ever shot up before. It's unreal how a new rig everytime helps soo much. Never had an abscess either....
 
A lot of users are more careless in the beginning with using new syringes for every shot and just good IV technique in general.. but, once you see your veins start collapsing left and right, having to struggle and fish around to register, thennnnn all the sudden you take a little more care and it becomes very important, as you need to save the veins you have left.

I wish I would have taken better care of my veins in the beginning. It would have saved me a lot of trouble in the future.

Don't know if you've seen this pic southeast, so I'll whip out this BL classic.

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AHMEN to the new rig every time! I also learned this the hard way. Fishing for veins is what causes almost if not all your prblems. I dont know how everybody else is but a dull syringe will go through my skin ok, then slide off the side of the vein. Clean as can be, good dope, and new clean syringe! And it is never to late to NOT share anything including the water,spoon, and the rig! I never shared syringes but got hep-c anyway. always shared spoons and water DUH! good luck, "notsureanymore"
 
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Ahh, sorry man about the Hep-C. That's rough.

But it is a good lesson for other people. You don't just have to worry about sharing needles. You should never share any equipment. You can catch something from somebodies cooker, cotton, water, etc.
 
bunge said:
Most of the users on here are using fresh rigs as much as possible. It really cant be stressed enough how important it is.
The complications youve experienced are the lesser ones, some really horrific complications (like gangrene or amputation) could be in your future is you dot clean up your needle practices.
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Fully agreed
 
I know it's not so easy to buy syringes and needles OTC as it is in my country, but even if you can't buy equipment OTC, there are other legitimate ways of getting new syringes and needles. Don't save money and time sacrificing your veins. I almost always used a new syringe and a new needle for every shot. As a result even after years of i.v.'ing my scars are hardly visible and people who have never seen scars from i.v.'ing can't see any scars at all (when I was a kid, I used to cut my wrists and these scars are much more visible...). I knew a lot of people who wouldn't care as much as I did, they would use big needles (meant for i.m. injections rather than i.v.'ing), re-use both syringes and needles, and let alone their scars... You can't be so naive and believing that you're ready to use a needle after someone else used it - even if that person says they're clean, you don't know that, they may not be aware of infections they had caught. I somehow eventually quit morphine/heroin and I'm now on maintenance program, and I'm clean. Sadly, I saw so many people who got infected with HIV or HCV.

One shot - one needle, as a rule, you may still have the solution in the same syringe if you missed and you're replacing the needle, but never ever share your equipment or use other people's equipment!
 
All you have to do is put it back in the cooker, refilter, and try again. If the needle clogs, either press down on the plunger, hit the clogged tip with a lighter, or take the plunger off and smack the liquid out. Throw away old needle, and try again.

It's only a problem if you make it one. This isn't complicated.
 
Clots are the Natural Healing Process of the body, but be careful and listen to your

body,

I've had this happen a few times myself and due to my vocation I can state a few things for you. Blood when moved into a receptacle that's not same as it's natural environment such as a rig can start coagulating (clotting) quite quickly as it doesn't have the same environment that usually stops this process. That's why bloods must get to labs asap and once there are put into machines that keeps it separated for testing. The liquid potion: plasma, and the cellular portion; red blood cells and white blood cells. Last, the smallest are the platelets. The smallest of blood's three cellular components are the platelets, named for their resemblance to tiny plates. Their main function was discovered when doctors observed that people with low platelet counts were especially vulnerable to bleeding. It is now well known that platelets are vital to blood clotting. When they touch the roughened surface of a torn blood vessel, they burst apart, releasing chemicals that set off a reaction in the blood leaking out. The result is that they convert one of the plasma's proteins, fibrinogen, into a network of fibers that trap RBCs - thereby forming a clot which seals the leak.
So not uncommon at all to see these frequently in rigs.. As many other threads mention, use a new one if you're going to reuse the product you're injecting. YES! If you can always use a new one as they're sharp, cause less tears to the vein thereby reducing the production of platelets. The more damage the more clots hence hard thickening veins as they trying their dam hardest to heal you. I buy them in bulk 100 for $25 AUD but not everyone has access to medical supplies. Impersonally use mine 2-3 times where I will rise thoroughly with boiled water, just don't try to clean the tip as nothing in our environment is clean (sterile enough) I've lost a vein due to the removal of a subcutaneous cyst which was full of a bad hit that became infected because I rushed the process, DONT EVER RUSH, no high is worth 2 days in hospital with surgeons, drs and nurses all knowing how you got there. Learn to do it yourself too, which I'm glad you are, talking risks like IV drug use means you have to be responsible for you, NO ONE in our science culture will ever care about you as much as you do deep down no matter what we are escaping, enjoying or whatever verb fits here for YOU. Stay safe....
 
Dude I dig every day & always get a good bit of blood in it if your pulling blood up your good to go but be sure its in the vein & not gone all the way through it usually takes me a good 30mins to get my self , if you are using microfine needles they can be tricky because they are super fine & its hard to push through try going up a size, as for the blood in the pin take the pin & give it a good shake & put it in a cup of hot water to warm up again , when warm blood hits a cold solution in the pin it will start to congeal so try to keep the solution warm ..hit me up if you need more info..
 
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