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SHABOO in Perth, info please

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My DD has some Shaboo( I think thats how you spell it) want to try, but b4 I do I would like to know what is in it, and its affects, some say its like a rushy type of speed, just alot stronger and keeps u up longer, can any one confirm, or has tried. And what would b an approx dose 4 a first time user. Thankx
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look up methylaminorex on Erowid, should be a nice amount of info on there.
If that term doesn't give you mush info try 'ice' and 'shabu'.
On another note you should be paying 300 or less for a g. And 900-1000 for an 8th. That's for the pure, chunky stuff which has absolutely flooded Perth recently.
 
I reckon it probably isn't 4-MA.
somebody posted here a little while ago saying the shabu we get here looks exactly like crystal meth but it's actually dl-methamphetamine while the stuff made in oz is d-methamphetamine.
On that note, doesn't anyone know the difference in effects between d & dl meth would be, I would be interested to know.
If it is 4-MA, take small bumps of the stuff, a line and you could be hittin the emergency room with your heart doing it's best to explode out of your chest, as I understand it.
 
I'm not ready and able to say whether I think it's ice or not. It's being sold as ice by all those involved... and it looks icey
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I'm yet to sample so I won't say.
So methylaminorex will sublimate (vapourise)
will methamphetamine? Cos if not that's an easy way to find out! The ice that's about is so pure that there wouldn't be much residue left over due to impurites after vapourising some. If methamphet won't sublimate then differentiating would eaaaasy... but I can't find out whether it will or not. Anyone?
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And if you do happen to vapourise it make sure you suck up the fumes with a straw, they're cool, clear and not very smoke-like
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Sorry I forgot to add that I think methamphet does sublimate. I think you cant differentiate the two that way (dont quote me on this tho)
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Yea, the two evaporate the same way. The Evaporation 'test' is only good for testing purity... rocks can be pretty impure as far as I know (in the sense that it can still be crystalized impure... ) correct me if I'm wrong?
 
I sampled today... it is a bit taxing
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But I haven't had a decent sleep for a few days so that's probably why. Damn strong. I meant to try vapourising... but due to the meth/ice mental effect I forgot and cut all I have with gluc already
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crystals can be made very impure. But these ones are highly pure I'm sure. They're almost clear!
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What about the good old E test.
Will 4-MAR go orange as with speed/meth??
If i could get my hands on some deuterated water (D2O) i could analyse the stuff (i have a small amount) in no time. Via NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy)
I might save may last uncut bit if this does come along and get back to u!
 
Yes this shabu/ice whateva u wanna call it is pretty good, Ive been having heaps the last few weeks (its f*#king everywhere). The effects are not the same as meth, its very clean, you get a big rush if you bang it and it’s a real head f*#k.
If you get some taste it first coz some people are mixing it with Epsom salts, you cant tell by looking at it coz the salt rocks look exactly the same as the gear, if you don’t know what Epsom salts taste like just by some (bout 2 bucks I fink) and try it.
A COUPLE OF WARNINGS THOUGH,
You build up a tolerance to this stuff REALLY FAST and it is VERY, VERY ADDICTIVE so watch out!!!!!
 
This stuff really is a mystery.
If u look at what is written about 4-MAR and presume its correct, there is no way this stuff could be that.
All the reports on it describe incredible clarity of thinking, ability to do mental work amazingly well, and quite mild physical stimulant properties. Maybe this was the dose??
Taxing and head-fuck did not feature in any of the info.
I have had a small amount and the physical effects were rather noticeable. I felt like i could jump out of my skin, but no way was sitting at a computer easy!
I am thinking it must be DL-methamphetamine.
If u read the very good thread currently going on about D-meth and L-meth u may agree.
It basically says that meth made from pseudo is always D-meth.
Meth made from P2P similar to the way MDMA is made from MD-P2P will be the racemic DL-meth. (i believe that the product here should be cleaner; this is the experts way to make amphetamines; the pseudo route is a lucky break which has enabled every bloke and his dog to synth meth.
Although people will say that pure D-meth is the shit; but perhaps generally is not as clean/pure)
In short D has both mental and physical effects. The L, only physical effects, but most likely greater than the D.
Sounds like what u r saying Xtatique? More of a body rush and consequent slightly messier mind (like ur less controlled as ur body is going crazy?) than "ordinary" meth. But at the same time cleaner; as the quality is obviously very high.
Unless of course we r dealing with a completely different stimulant all together.
Can someone do an E1 test on it just for fun.(mine's too old and already brown)
Looking at the structure of 4-MAR it may well not go orange.
They said PMA wouldnt and ephedrine doesnt, and they are far far closer to meth in structural terms than the REAL ice.
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a friend in a very prominant position recently offered me ice, having read this thread i asked if it was possibly shabu, he said no, and told me to stay away from the shit, apparently it's from indonesia and can make you go crazy in the head . . .
 
*LMFAO* "makes you go crazy in the head"
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I've never snuffed ice/shabu, but smoking it is very different to snuffing meth, i get a very clean and "floaty" feeling, don't ask about the comedowns though
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. Apart from having it, I'm not sure how to tell the difference between them, visually, etc. A mate of mine thinks that ice is more translucent than meth *shrug* i'm not sure.
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the warnings about it making you go crazy in the head are pretty sensationalist, but it's very possible to happen.
i've had it a few times....it feels like a mild stimulant, but very clear and sharp. and there was a little e like euphoria. strangely i could sleep 6 hours after having some....it was really clean, but if i chose to stay awake i could.
i don't know what chemical it actually is, the lore i've heard about it is that it was developed during the 2nd world war for the japanes soldiers from a mix of 4 components. it was made to improve their performance....which meant being alert, but clear minded enough to follow orders and keep their heads.
well it's a good story, and it seems to fit with the japanese culture of amphetamine use.....
 
Did anyone catch the news story about a bust on a SE Asian drug syndicate in Perth with apparently a couple of kilograms of "ice"?
Was it busted coming in or was it already here?
Coz i am thinking that this is the stuff we r discussing atm?
Anyway officials called it methylamphetamine.
Now I know people say that officials say the wrong thing etc. But i do not believe that the "ice" on our streets is anything other than SOME FORM/ENANTIOMER/ISOMERS etc etc of methylamphetamine.
I am positive it is not 4-methylaminorex.
That chemical requires a watched precursor and one extremely poisonous reagent. I just dont see big arse batches of this stuff being made. More likely in Asian countries they illegally procure P2P and turn that into meth.
J-swift, u would appear to be referring to 4-MAR. And u agree with the documented info that it had mild stimulant properties.
This current stuff definitely does not.
I could be wrong of course; but at least on the balance of probabilities I dont think I am.
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Just managed to get my hands on some of this 'SHABU'. DD says its definately from Indo and yes, there's shit loads of it available. In my baggie I scored a nice big rock about 10mm across and crystal clear. This stuff does not stink of chemicals like normal whipper, no smell at all actually. Dropped a tiny chip into some EZ-Tester and it very slowly turned orange. Normally if I drop a few speks of pure whip in it will turn instantly orange/brown. Anyway, railed a small line last night of it straight up and it only had a mild tingling sensation, no where near as bad a burn you get with strong whip. Maybe this stuff is the much talked about 4-MAR??
This stuff is definately the goods as the small line had me buzzing with a very clear head and I was thinking a million thoughts at once! Very clean.
 
Thats very interesting!
Now is your tester definitely still newish?
If it is meth it obviously will go orange very fast.
When tested mine fizzed violently (crushed crystal); indicating a very strong reaction but that was with E2, and for some reason the blasted solution in the one i used seemed already green so testing amphetamines difficult.
So did u test a crystal?
I would crush the crystal and test the resulting powder; it could be that in its chunky state the reaction is slow.
Test some powder, if same slow reaction I will accept that we dont have meth here.
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i tested some crushed up ice that i had got on the weekend with the dancesafe tester. I had no color change but the solution bubbled violently. the effects that I got from it sounded like the effects that i have read for methylaminorex. mild stimulant effects lasting up to 15-16hrs, very clear headed and could focus on doing stuff with out getting side tracked like i do with wizz and meth.
thats just my experience with the ice around atm.
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