Seroquel for 9 months after H w/d? need advice

[Panamajack]

I’m confused. I need some advice about heroin w/d using Seroquel. I’ve been an addict for about 3 years, and went cold turkey 5 months ago. I didn’t read anything about it first, and like a naive dumbass, I thought, “How bad can it be?” After 6 days of hell and 20 more days with no more than 10 minutes sleep a night, I relapsed. I just couldn’t take the lack of sleep. The best I could get in my little town (I live outside the states) was Ambien, and acupuncture with Chinese herbs., It didn’t touch the insomnia at all.
I’m going to detox with medical help now (at home alone), but am having second thoughts about my doctor’s competence. She’s prescribed a course of Seroquel 100 mg before bed the 1st nite followed by 200 mg. per night for 7 days. 2.5mg Valium in the am and 5 mg in the pm, nothing for diarrhea. Then back to her office for a complete drug test, and to start the next phase which will be 9 months of Seroquel, tapered off at the end. I asked why the extended Seroquel treatment and she said that was the best way for my brain chemistry to return to normal. That the seroquel will fill the receptors which the heroin leaves open and I will not experience PAWS.
Has anyone had experience with a detox and extended treatment that is similar to this one? Does 200 mg Seroquel at night during detox make sense to anyone?
Another question I have is about extended release Tramadol 100 mg. I have 10 of them. I read in a post that it’s an opioid, and can help in the detox . I guess if I use the tramadol, I’ll fail the drug test for opioids. Is that also true of lomotil?
Please say a prayer for me.
Confused

 

[Nexius]

If you take a look at seroquel

A1-adrenic and A2-adgrenic receptor antagonist which is your "Adrenaline" receptors, by blocking these receptors you become extremely sedated. These are known as "Alpha Blockers" Alpha blockers are used in heart medications, like Digoxin

mACh receptor antagonist which inhibits the activity of of the muscarinic acetylcholine receptor (Acetylcholine-ACh) It's a primary neurotransmitter int he brain found in the cell membrane. It causes CNS depression and amnesia, fatigue and the reduction of REM sleep. They're also used in things such as anti-parkinsonian drugs.

It's a D1, D2, D3 and D4 receptor antagonist which blocks those receptors in the brain.
Those receptors are your "Reward system" every day tasks you do, that you feel a sense of accomplishment you don't get anymore because the drugs have cause unnatural levels of dopmaine flood in the brain causing a mental addiciton, because everything sucks if you're not high.

H1 receptor antagonist which is a histamine receptor these inhibit the release of Cromolyn and other histamines. These receptors are also the main cause of allergies, medicines like benadryl act on these receptors.

It's also a 5-HT1a, 5-HT2a, 5-HT2c, and 5-HT7 receptor antagonist which is your serotonin receptors, drugs like MDMA, LSD and other tryptamines act on these receptors. Along with antidepressants.

Hope that helped

Seroquel is a complicated drug and a very neat one at that.


To answer your question seroquel blocks the imbalance of chemicals in your brain that your heroin addiction caused, allowing you to regain balance when you ween off.


Sources:

I know alot about drugs, I research them for a living
I also checked my work.

 

[Nexius]

Oh and tramadol they generally don't test for. I've heard doctors test for tramadol though.

A really good drug is called clonidine, it's for high blood pressure it damn near cures 90% of the symptoms from withdrawl.

Look into it.

 

[TRPPNASS_DSCOMONKE]

that seroquel does sounds a little high to me, for me it would be half of that. but i guess shes the doctor lol.

tramadol is a partial opiod, which u would probably fail a drug test for.

 

[Nexius]

Tramadol you won't fail for a regular opiate drug test, they have to specifically test for tramadol and it's metabolistes

The reason it won't cause a positive on a normal opiate drug test (which is what 90% of people use, probation, government, employment)
It doesn't metabolize into morphine

Codeine Heroin both metabolize into morphine that's why you get a fail with thsoe drugs

 

[TRPPNASS_DSCOMONKE]

AH, good to know. thank you.

what about 'done? does it make you fail? just curious, sorry to derail.

 

[Nexius]

Methadone will not make you fail, however there is extended drug tests (Not the basic 5 panel that is used 90% of the time)
that they can test for methadone

It is very likely they will NOT test for methadone

Unless it's a pain clinic

 

[Panamajack]

Extended Seroquel

I just want to say thank you Nexius and Trippnass Dscomonke for writing to me. I don’t know any other addicts. I’ve never even talked to another addict until I posted here on TDS yesterday. The first time I tried to kick this crap I never bothered to read anything about how to do it. It makes me cry to know that you all are out there and care enough to help me understand what is happening in detox. After an almost successful cold turkey, I know I can do it this time, with the right drugs to help with sleep, etc; and most of all with you all rooting for me. God bless you both, and thank you from the bottom of my heart. Especially thank you Nexius for your detailed description of what Seroquel does.

P.S. I’m at 48 hours, and I haven’t had the first bad symptom. At this stage in cold turkey I was sick as a dog. I decided to use the Tramal long I just happened to have for pain. (12 years old). I read about the possible interaction of Seroquel and tramadol, so I dropped the dose of Seroquel to 50 mg. and still slept 8 hours solid last night. I think it and the Seroquel are working together in a really fantastic way. I’m doing the Tramal long as a 6 day linear taper, starting at 200 mg, so I guess I may have some symptoms as it tapers out or after it’s out of my system, but so far this is painless. Fingers crossed.

 

[Nexius]

I would not take the tramadol with the seroquel...
Seriuosly

Tramadol raises serotonin where seroquel stops the production, that mixture is a nono

I'd raise your dose back up to what it was and take clonidine instead

The tramadol is another opiate, your goal is to get off opiates.. so why take another one?



Just like those peple in the suboxone thread, I feel bad for them.. Because cold turkey is the way to do it.


Do what your doctor says, do NOT take the tramadol.


Ask your doc about clonidine, it completley eliminated my withdrawls.

That and your seroquel you're golden, you'll get used to your dose of seroquel.

Trust me

 

[Panamajack]

Jees, I hate the thought of another cold turkey. So if i get you correctly, The 7 day methadone taper and the 7 day subtex taper, are just about the same as a 7 day tramadol taper. I'm throwing Seroquel in on top of it. Why not just drop the seroquel until the end of the tramadol taper and it is out of my system? And then start the Seroquel.

 

[Panamajack]

My doc is a 2 day journey from here. By the time I get in to see her to get clonidine, I'll be on day 6.