Scopalamine vs Antihistamines?

[anterogradient]

More of a pharmacological/practical question, but I read travel forums, and whenever colombia comes up, it is always advised to watch of for being drugged with scopalamine.

It apparently makes people extremely suggestible, and makes it easy to get people to withdraw money from ATMs, give over money, etc.

My understanding is that scopalamine is an anticholinergic. I thought diphenhydramine was too, along with all the other otc antihistamine medications that are first generation antihistamines.

My question is, is there something unique about scopalamine that makes people more suggestible, or is can anticholinergic do that as an effect, but plants with scopalamine are every where there?

 

[Littana]

it will detach u from reality full-on, so u are like a child living in a nightmare vs some spiderds in the walls with dph

 

[Lysosomalstorage]

I feel like the devils breath coercion/mind control thing is extremely overstated and stems from a vice documentary short focusing on the gang that supposedly used it.

 

[evo4ever]

Im prescribed Scopolamine and its never made me more suggestible so I think its all BS.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

saw the doc to and the ones making the powder, the ones using it and a victim.
She sounded convincing enough, so or a very good actress or the truth.

They drugged her, made her draw her bank account, she did all compliant And lucky didn t rape or kill her.
If a hoax, its a good one, though VICE calls Tucibi a mix of MDMA, Ketamine and liquid Exstacy.

Which we all know even the one makin Tucibi is not MDMA. He didn t know snorting a Salt {[GHB].
Active at 1500 mg Is just masochism for the nose.

 

[Halif2]

I feel like the devils breath coercion/mind control thing is extremely overstated and stems from a vice documentary short focusing on the gang that supposedly used it.

Yeah, I think I agree.

People being drugged with scopalamine and then robbed or coerced has probably happened, but I can't imagine it's a common thing. Dosing someone with enough scopalamine to send them out of their minds could easily create a situation where the thieves end up with an unpredictable, paranoid, psychotic victim who is just as likely to try and eat their faces as hand over their bank details.

VICE calls Tucibi a mix of MDMA, Ketamine and liquid Exstacy

That kind of combination would make more sense if the goal is to get someone into a highly pliable and suggestible state.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Meaning VICE is not a real form off acceptable knowledge.

But there doc s seem real, for me. just not scientific,
and most lightly aimed at the excesses, the extreme not mundain.

 

[lord fanny]

An anticholinergic in high enough doses is more likely to make one confused and completely delirious than suggestible. I can't imagine actually trying to convince someone to do much of anything on a deleriant let alone actually getting them to withdrawl money out of an ATM. Sounds like quite a frustrating task, honestly.

If you want to make someone suggestible, I'd imagine a GABAa drug would probably be the easiest, alcohol in particular.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

An anticholinergic in high enough doses is more likely to make one confused and completely delirious than suggestible. I can't imagine actually trying to convince someone to do much of anything on a deleriant let alone actually getting them to withdrawl money out of an ATM. Sounds like quite a frustrating task, honestly.

If you want to make someone suggestible, I'd imagine a GABAa drug would probably be the easiest, alcohol in particular.

Or a high dose of MDMA and some GHB, i hear a loaded gun on your forhead works too.

Trauma all the same though. Hang em by the balls i d say.
Deserved when drugging/ mugging people.