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Stimulants Scary experience from adderall...

hatrix

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WARNING: long post, still havent slept so not surprising......



So I've been taking stimulants pretty regularly over the past 3-4 months, maybe a little longer but not too much. Its not every day of every week, but usually 3-5 days in a row, with the longest break being 4 days. Usually 1-2 days break at most.

It has mostly been Adderall, but also includes a bit of Ritalin and 4-FA. MDMA was taken twice over the period. Once at the beginning and last about 10 days ago.

The past week and a half or so I've had 4-FA 3 or 4 times, with days in a row usage. Highest single dose was ~160mg. Doses aftee were a little smaller, but all except my last use had one or two small boosters (45mg or so). In between and after I had been taking Ritalin. I believe I went through 12 20mg pills total. My highest dose of Ritalin was 60mg, but after experiencing a terrible comedown with really bad chest pressure/tightness I took less. 40mg a couple times, then 20mg.

All doses were plugged. Highest adderall dosage was 60mg, never redosed. Also, 99% of the adderall was 20mg XRs crushed.

Take note: I sleep every night, almost always 7-8 hours+.

Two days leading up to this i had 40mg Ritalin, followed by 20mg the next day.

So yesterday at 6pm (13 1/2 hours ago) I plugged 40mg of Adderall. I definitely have a stim tolerance, thats clear from my daily use, but I never go above 60mg with adderall and 40mg is more of a medium dose. I hadent had adderall in weeks up until this point, so I figured it would be decently enjoyable.

I got speedy as usual. About 2 hours later though I basically felt like I was coming down, heart pounding, increasing anxiety. I drink V8 fusion while speeding, making sure I take in good levels of potassium and stay hydrated. Also took my usual multivitamin and magnesium glycinate. So I was expecting to have any horrid comedown, but it seemed worse than usual. Anxiety got worse and worse as expected, and I'm left checking my HR constantly.

Now I always eat something when I start coming down. Even ate before I dosed. I have no issues with appetite. So I don't think any levels could have been out of whack? However, I felt I was just to hot and sweaty and my heart was pounding a lot along with high chest tightness/pressure, it didnt help it was 80+ with 70% humidity. I was at computer the entire time though and figured id be ok in the heat.

I eventually felt so crappy I went to lye down around 2:00 AM or so to try to calm down. My arms were randomly getting stiff and sore along with my legs. It seemed my BP was higher than normal or something but I had no way to measure it.
HR seemed ok, was 109 when taken earlier and never seemed higher.

Laying down watching TV is where it got scary though. I had made another meal and got another drink to help me get some rest and stay hydrated, etc. However, I was having heavier than normal chest pressure/tightness along with lots of random muscle spasms in different areas. Eventually I was getting sharp pains in my left shoulder blade and this seemed to trigger what I THOUGHT was me having a heart attack.

My chest pressure increased a lot suddenly and so much it scared me. I stood up immediately and got weird rushing sensations and sort of depersonalization while attempting to walk to the bathroom. My HR definitely skyrocketed and seemed erratic. I thought for certain I was having an actual heart attack and almost burst in someones room to have them drive me to the ER. I tried rationalizing in my head though that it seemed super unlikely given my dosage and took a single aspirin and tried to calm down. I googled tons more out of paranoia, never really coming to any conclusions. Eventually took a hot shower at 3:20AM or so thinking my BP was very high, and it seemed to help a little.

It all seemed to be something with my BP. For hours afterwords I couldn't lye down without the repeated bad chest sensations starting to come back, so I sat up for hours and eventually felt a lot better.

Its about 7:30 AM currently and I can lay down without much of a problem now. I continued to drink water the entire time. I have had a panic attack before that had me in the ER from 4-FA, quite a while ago sometime last year. I take valium for anxiety, 5mg 3x daily but ran out a week and a half ago or so.

I'm not sure if it was all really anxiety. I feel like normal as far as comedowns go now, and will be trying to sleep soon. When it happene though I was struck with a lot of panic/fear.
 
Ur taking too many stimulants man.....Take a break from ALL uppers (except caffeine maybe) for AT LEAST two weeks (especially serotonin releasers like MDMA and 4-fa). 40 mg of Adderall should have a nice buzz after that. I'm sure you know about chelated magnesium too.

Stay safe homie.
 
Yea trust me I'm taking a break, a long one. I wont even take another stim again unless I for sure have a benzo. It's not worth it. ill stick to some opiates instead for occasional enjoyment.

I do not take caffiene however. Its been like 4+ years or something.

I had another weird panicky heart sensation again, but more food and trying to relax seems to have helped. Hopefully I get the Percocet I'm supposed to today, I need some relief.
 
Too much dexies. You can't do too much of that Aderall. Take as many mg as you weigh for a satisfying effect but not every day.
 
Too much dexies. You can't do too much of that Aderall. Take as many mg as you weigh for a satisfying effect but not every day.

So if I weigh 180 lbs, I should take 9 pink 20mg IR Adderalls for a good time and it won't kill me? Jeez 20mg seems to put me on edge with little euphoria. (I'm not a stranger to stimulants, used to freebase lots of coke awhile back). I can't imagine how even 100mg of adderall would make me feel, I'd think it would kill me....
 
If we talk about weight in kilos, it would make more sense. 180lb is 80kg, taking 80mg sounds like good euphoria not so dangerous . And no, 100mg wouldn't kill you unless you have heart disease.
 
Well it sure does make more sense if they meant in kilos, maybe some day if I'm feeling brave I'll give 60mg a try, then again I'm not sure I like the thought of the length of time I'd be crawling the walls, even the instant release last forever...
 
Same thing happened to me before and I think caffeine was the culprit. I have had it feel like a car was sitting on my chest for the entire night, meaning I couldn't lie down comfortably on my bed. It passes, just take longer breaks and like I said don't take caffeine.
 
I've had something similar with Adderall which is why I prefer dex now. Cutting out the L-amph isomer made things much smoother physically. Less muscle tension and cardiovascular nastiness. Staying hydrated and making sure to eat some lean protein helps tremendously, too. I get shaky and panicky when my blood sugar is low and after eating too little for days in a row on a binge, that's bound to happen.

"Water, protein, & drug holidays" is my mantra, especially when it comes to stims.

Namaste
 
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