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Colmes

Colmes

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If one does not know which strain he or she has obtained, I dont think you could (average pothead) truely know one way or the other by trying it. Am I wrong? Is the difference that huge? As i'm sure i've tried both. For some reason however, I think combining the placebo strain with either, can have even more potent (relaxation, or more of s speedy) effect.
Sometimes certain people, or, a certain situation, can bring out a paranoid, anxiety rittled high, this could be brought on by a lot of things, in short, a placebo effect. Perhaps you feel uncomfortable, something bad happened where you are at while stoned.

Then there is also a very relaxing high, one where you can explore your mind, sort of, thinking about what things are truely important ect. Or, just playing a video game, or going out suffices.

I personally only smoke by myself, or with my brother. I just dont enjoy it nearly as much with other people. When with others, I lhave a lot more laughs, but I enjoy it more alone. This is more than likely a mind over matter issue, or, in essence, a placebo.


In conclusion, while the two strains are quite different in effects, I hypothesize that the placebo strain, combined with either, can also have powerful effects.


if that made no sense, I apologize, obviously I took one too many sugar pills.
 
I claim no marketing ploy, I know there is certainly a difference. But..since marijuana really has some of its most potent effects on your thought patterns, how you see everything through the looking glass, I just can't see how your brain couldnt play a particularlly big role as well, especially in certain situations.

Also hybrids, yeah.- I'm a fan of hybrids, synergizing ect, but sometimes, I prefer a drug by itself.
 
you can def tell the differences between good pure indicas and good pure sativas. the high is most certainly noticbley different. alot of buds are hydrids and those are hard to get a real good 'feel' for.
not to say it isnt placebo to some effect. but when i have gotten real nice pure indicas or sativas except for a few occasions they werent advertised as bein INd or Sat i was just told the strain name then smoked it, came up with my opinion, and later found out it correlated to whether or not that strain was an indica or sativa


even with regular unnamed danks when you get a nug and it gets you up and going with a clear head and ready to do stuff you know this is a nice sativa and when i get nugs that i smoke and then feel like i dont want to get up off the couch and i feel nice and relaxed/heavy throughout my entire body that i have a good indica

Just my .02 cents though
 
Colmes said:
Also hybrids, yeah.- I'm a fan of hybrids, synergizing ect, but sometimes, I prefer a drug by itself.
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He means sativa/indica hybrids, not pot + another drug.

There is a difference. That difference is noticeable by your average pothead, even if they don't know what the different kinds of highs signify.
 
Jibult said:
He means sativa/indica hybrids, not pot + another drug.

There is a difference. That difference is noticeable by your average pothead, even if they don't know what the different kinds of highs signify.
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aye I know what he meant, the hybrid of two plant strains, as opposed to mixing anti-histamines& benzos, with oxycodone. Not that clueless^^

I know there is a difference, I just also think that the placebo effect could influence how you interpret the feelings of the high considerably. I mean, the difference between the two stains isnt like the difference between methamphatamines and heroin.
 
Colmes said:
I know there is a difference, I just also think that the placebo effect could influence how you interpret the feelings of the high considerably. I mean, the difference between the two stains isnt like the difference between methamphatamines and heroin.
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Actually, if you had a 100% indica and compared it to a 100% sativa, you could compare the different highs to those of amphetamines and opiates. It would be differences of degrees, though, not of kind... but similar just the same.

Seriously, they're like two completely different drugs. The placebo effect you're going on about could fool a person, but most likely it would only trick inexperienced smokers.
 
Jibult said:
Actually, if you had a 100% indica and compared it to a 100% sativa, you could compare the different highs to those of amphetamines and opiates. It would be differences of degrees, though, not of kind... but similar just the same.

Seriously, they're like two completely different drugs. The placebo effect you're going on about could fool a person, but most likely it would only trick inexperienced smokers.
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They may feel different, but the contrast between nodding away on what is suddenly the most comfortable throw pillow, and being awake for 4 days cleaning the house, taking things apart, and ect ect"

Theyre different I know! But not ^^THIS different!
 
Colmes said:
They may feel different, but the contrast between nodding away on what is suddenly the most comfortable throw pillow, and being awake for 4 days cleaning the house, taking things apart, and ect ect"

Theyre different I know! But not ^^THIS different!
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Which is why I said they're differences of degrees. Indica's give you a couch-locked, stoned as fuck, not-wanting-to-do-anything-but-stare-at-the-tv kind of high; sativa's give you a pumped up, energetic, focused, ready-to-take-on-the-world kind of high.
 
Just for you, Colmes:

The Sativa High :
The sativa high is often characterized as uplifting and energetic . The effects of a sativa marijuana are mostly cerebral. They give a feeling of optimism and well - being, as well as providing a good measure of pain relief for certain symptoms. A few pure sativas are also very high in THC content. They are known to have a quite spacey, or hallucinogenic, effect. Sativas are a good choice for daytime smoking.


The Indica High :
The indica highs are most often described as a pleasant body buzz. Indicas are great for relaxation, stress relief, and for an overall sense of calm and serenity. Marijuana indicas are also very effective for overall body pain relief, and often used in the treatment of insomnia. They are the late - evening choice of many smokers as an all - night sleep aid. A few pure indica strains are very potent in THC, and will cause the "couchlock" effect, enabling the smoker to simply sit still and enjoy the experience of the smoke.


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The two highs are opposite ends of a spectrum. That's all I'm saying. Just like how amphetamines are on the "upper" side of a drug spectrum and opiates are on the "downer" side. If you can't understand what I'm saying from that description, someone else is going to have to step in and start talking to you about this.
 
Sativa is more associated with paranoia .
Do people generally like indica strain more?
I have plenty of mj exp, but only recently have heard of the two major differences in strains, although from expierience, it does make sense.


edit; thank you for the sources.
 
It all depends on the kind of person you are, the high you're looking for and the situation you're in when you toke up.

Personally, though, I like sativa-dominant buds more. I used to love being stuck on my couch all day and not wanting to do anything else but smoke more, but nowadays I feel like I'm just wasting away when I do that kind of shit. I'm all about getting high to better enjoy other experiences, not just experiencing an intense high.
 
Am I wrong?
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i take it you've never encountered true well grown sour D or other legendary strains? I still can distinguish between the few hundred strains i've smoked in my youth. If you learn to look for it(& ID correctly), one can taste the parents in their creation/result. I do recognize the smell of each as well, some are unforgettable some the are most forgetable lol. Sour a D is nice, im a sativa buff but indicas are great for bed time & movies!
 
Yeah, the difference is easy to distinguish once you have any real experience smoking. Even people I know who aren't really into strains/the culture but just enjoy smoking pot still use the term "headies" - which refers to sativa strains or sativa-heavy hybrids.

I also think as time goes on, long term smokers tend to prefer the sativa high. It's less draining, the burn out isn't as debilitating, and you can actually get up and do shit which is obviously more fun than just getting lost in a bag of Doritos while zoning out to infomercials.

Also - Sour D really is the bomb.
 
As a rule most street weed is Indica dominant as the flowering times are lower.

If you get a pure Indica or Sativa you WILL notice, if you can't tell then you have a hybrid, as the buzz is equal in both head and body.

For the most part though street weed is Indica dominant as less flower time = more harvests per year which = more profit per year for the dealers.

If you buy a pure strain of a street dealer, there's a big chance it will be a pure Indica, the rare deals are the pure Sativa's with a 13-14 week flower time.

Another guide is how dense the buds are, the more dense they are the more Indica they are. Say if you put a small bud in the grinder and it grinds up to more than you expected by sight, then it's very likely to be some nice, dense, Indica dominant/pure buds.

Chances are if you want 80/100% Sativa you'll need to grow it yourself or know the grower personally.
 
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the rare deals are the pure Sativa's with a 13-14 week flower time.
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more like 24+

you have a hybrid, as the buzz is equal in both head and body.
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hybrids can still be 70/30 etc.

If you buy a pure strain of a street dealer, there's a big chance it will be a pure Indica, the rare deals are the pure Sativa's with a 13-14 week flower time.
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yeah dude, marijuana dealers are such ah joke in my book. Its sooo funny how they think they're special for having someone else's product. Secondly this industry needs to be about healing humanity first and profit second; Mostly every dealer is just out to make $ which in my book = f2gz
 
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