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San Pedro To Boil or not To Boil

Mr.Mandelbrot

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So the other day SWIM was on the internet looking for san pedro stove top extractions and was told by several reputable sources that boiling san pedro destroys both mescaline and the other potentially psychedelic alkaloids. SWIM thinks that is bull shit.
After a little research he found that the melting point of mescaline is between 361F-367F well above 212F <the boiling point of water>.
So armed with the following info he proceeded to use the following method.
1.place 1/2 inch cubed cactus in ice bath let sit for twenty minutes then slowly bring to boil.
2.boil three hours adding water IF NEEDED.
3.take of burner separate cubed cactus from water liquefy in blender until its a paste return to water and continue to boil for 1 1/2 hours .
4.at this point SWIM had 2 1/2 cups of water<extract> and a soft ball size wad of cactus paste he once again separated tho two but continued to boil down the extract,while doing this squeezed the rest of the water from the paste and returned it to the extract.
5.anyway this is why he thinks that boiling damages alkaloids in san pedro is bull shit he continued to boil 21/2 cups down to 21/2FL oz and it was potent enough to moderately dose three people.
So wtf where are these claims that boiling destroys alkaloids coming from.
 
Well I don't know what you mean by moderately dosed? I've tried San Pedro 3 times and the first 2 times were kind of adventerous and mild compared to the 3rd time, where i ate some and super lightly boiled the rest of the cactus. I don't know how much cacti you ingested yourself but the 3rd time i did about 18 inches and it was comparable to acid and I definitely enjoyed it more than mushrooms. San Pedro is far more euphoric to me than shrooms or acid, with alot less headfuck.
 
when i say moderate i mean not a threshold dose but not quite a heavy one either...heavy doses of san pedro i dose alone or with a close friend.
In my opinion are the best introspective entheogen for exactly the reasons the guerillabedlam has pointed out this substance <or combination of substances> is quite euphoric and you have a lot more of control over your headspace when compared to tryptamine compounds...however it should be noted that when on a strong <300mg-500mg>or heavy <500mg-750Mg>dose abdominal cramps have been known to be persistent throughout the trip even low doses can cause this effect to a smaller extent.
this is apparently true with mescaline hcl,citrate,acetate,and synthetic mescaline.(however if you have synth mesc youmust be pretty talented lol>
 
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