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San Pedro preparation, personal experiances

ceryc

ceryc

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I'm looking for information from people who have personal experiance either extracting mescaline from san pedro, or preparing and eating the cacti.
for those who extract: which method did you use? what was the yield? did you have access to proper equipment and lab grade chemicals, or was it more of a kitchen and walmart process? is this something a newbie can do?
for those who prefer the straight cactus: how did you prepare it? any tricks to get over the taste and texture? any problems keeping the slime down? did you find it easier to dry the cactus and powder it for gelcaps?
for both groups: did you have better results with online sources or buying from a local store (note-Don't Reply With Sources!).
feel free to post any links with methods.
 
First off, preparing an ornamental San Pedro cactus for it's Mescaline is Illegal, therefore wrong and sinful...
Anyhow, I had a vision I'd like to share with you...
I had this wacky dream-like vision that I prepared -
* 1 (thin,top cutting) 15 inch San Pedro (2 1/2 - 3 inches Wide)
* 1 (dehydrated/crappy looking,top cutting) 10 inch Peruvian Torch (3 inches Wide)
* 1 (nice and fat, mid section/cutting) 18 inch long San Pedro (4 inches wide)
They were despined,(then cut in 2-3 inch slices) deskinned (removing the waxy outer skin is a pain) then the outer 1/3 inch of dark green skin + surrounding light green skin was removed and dryed in a ($39.00) Food Dehydrator set at 95 - 105 F
(I've read that's your suppose to dry the Cactus chips in a dark draw for a week or so, I tried this once and it took forever to dry and a couple kinds of mold quickly grew on the moist cactus -
a red bacteria lookin mold and a white fuzz...to make things worse - it was summer at the time and a fly must have gotten to the plate, cuz there were at least two maggots on the cactus chips...I know...gross...Initially I wondered if they were some sort of parasitic worm that lived in the cactus itself, but I researched it and read that Flys lay their eggs on rotting fruits,etc)
You avoid these problems with a Food Dehydrator, which uses low heat and a fan to dry the product. The moving air prevents mold, while
No sun + low heat = minimal Mescaline degradation.
It also drys the cactus chips extremely fast (less than a day).
(Outer 1/3 inch Green skin weight)--->
---> The yeilds were as followed :
15 Inch Long (2 1/2 - 3 inch Wide) San Pedro -
23.5 grams
10 Inch Long (3 inch Wide) Peruvian Torch -
17.0 grams
18 Inch Long (4 inch Wide) San Pedro -
49.7 grams
The green skin chips were then grinded real well in a small electric Coffee bean grinder ($15.00) and stuffed in Gel Caps...(get the 000 caps, the largest I know of)
I tried 17 grams of the (15inch) San Pedro and found it too powerful, but not quite enough, next time I'll take around 25-35 grams (which I imagine would be a nice strong dose)
Keep in mind that Trichocereus species vary in potency, but I imagine if 300mg - 500mg is considered a good/strong Mescaline Dose, this was around 200mg (atleast)
(I would have taken a larger amount, but I got paranoid that it could be a super potent cactus and that I would take way too much)
I took the 17 grams in 2 seperate doses an hour apart (17 pills, waited an hour, then took another 18 pills. NOTE - these were 00 gelcaps, if I had the larger 000 gelcaps at the time it would have been easier)
Taking Mescaline in two seperate doses an hour apart, prevents shocking your system, as would taking it all at once...
I only had VERY minor stomach discomfort about 20 minutes after each dose (only lasted about 10 minutes) No gagging, puking, shitting, etc.
I've heard people say that dried cactus in gelcaps takes a very long time to come on (as oppose to drinking a cactus shake, which comes on sooner)...not really, I could feel initial effects within an hour and by two - three hours it was in good effect. Perhaps these people didn't grind the cactus fine enough, I grinded it untill it was a powder. It's harder to put in gelcaps when its so fine, but it seems to work better.
You'll know when it really starts from the jaw clenching...
It lasts a long time - ~12 hours (of course, it seems like 36 hours :) )
The only negative things for me was my back pain and that I got a headache towards the end of the trip.
(I do get headaches rather easily and somewhat frequently, so I don't know if that had anything to do with the Mescaline itself)
I had no paranoia or anxiety or fear what so ever...it's real powerfull stuff.
I would suggest obtaining a 24inch or even 36 inch piece of cactus. This way, you could try a smaller amount initially, to get a gauge on the potency and then set yourself up for a great trip.
I know some people worry that these cacti will be targeted by the cognitive terrorists, but I'm not so sure...one method of use (juice method,eating method) doesn't take long to prepare, but tastes absolutely horrible...while this method (dried,powdered) takes a whole hell of ALOT of work to prepare...Most people probably won't go though the trouble...it takes many hours to prepare...Trichocereus sp. will never be too popular for these reasons...
I will probably write a Trip Report in the future, I've typed too much as it is...
What a dream it was...Hope this helps some...
[ 17 December 2002: Message edited by: BlueDeer ]
 
This may have been something someone some place sometime may have tried..... Take the cactus and cut out all the white flesh so only the green outer layer and skin/spines are left. then juice them. However be sure to keep the cactus from excreting mucus by putting your chunks in a bowl of water untill you juice. This will most likely give you a quick and easy drink with a fresh "raw" taste. If it proves to be to much liquid it can always be boiled down. However if the cactus starts to excret mucus it will clog the juicer and you will have one of the biggest messes you ever dreamed of on your hands. So be sure to keep it wet.
If you want to dry it you may want to try puting the chips under a fan on high in the dark if you dont have acess to a food Dehydrator.
Another tip would be to take your cutting and put it in a compleatly dark place after the cut callouses up and leave it there for about a month. Theroeticaly this would incress the goodies in the cactus by stressing it. Hey you could even play it music, talk to it, and turn it into some sort of rutual or something if you wanted. Im sure the cactus would at least be a little bit more happy knowing it was being acknowleged and cared about while being stuffed in a box for a month.
[ 18 December 2002: Message edited by: Spinal ]
 
Haven't used San Pedro before, but recently tried some Peruvian Torch. Similar methods of preparation, except the Peruvian hav big nasty spines, that really, really hurt (and break off under your skin).
We skinned 2 30cm cactus, stripped the green flesh and discarded the core (which came out on its own). We put the flesh in the freezer overnight, then let if slowly defrost the next day prior to blending.
The flesh itself didn't look like that much so rather than try an extraction, we figured we'd just blend it up with juice of 5 limes and 1 lemon. This was mainly because we'd heard so many reports of the awful taste. While it looked like a small amout in flesh form straight off the cactus, when it got blended to volume increased dramatically.
To tell you the truth, the taste wasn't so bad. Both myself and my friend who tried agreed that the taste/texture wasn't as bad as reports we'd read (most of which were about Pedro BTW).
I would recommend lime juice (like two limes per 30cm) as this really seemed to mask the bitterness. We also added juice of one lemon. The sourness makes the cactus taste not so bad.
Invest in a think straw to drink it with too. We didn't have any on hand, but wish we did... That would have made it really easy. Got two giant glasses full down within half an hour, with no nausea at all.
[ 18 December 2002: Message edited by: Flexistentialist ]
 
I had a quite intense experience off 55 grams of pulverised light-green material which had previously dehydrated with a food dehydrator,pulverised with a coffee grinder, then extracted in water for about 4 hours. I had intense closed eye visuals, saw opened eyed patterns and objects. I myself only weigh 50 kg and the intensity of the trip was similar to around 8-10 decent sized subaeruginosa's. The trip was very down to earth bringing my thoughts in touch with nature and left me very scattered not being able to get any sleep.
 
ceryc said:
anyone else got some experiances to share?
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Tonight i will have my 4th dream in which San Pedro is involved. I have had 3 previous dreams that were sort of mild. I am an experienced psychonaut, since the late 90's. Last night I dreamt i was crushing about 18" of dried trichocereus Pachanoi into powder. This was in an effort to capsule it up as I had done in a previous dream. This dream was the most powerful when compared to other dreams in which I ate the Cacti raw. We will see what happens. let you guys know upon my awakening
 
Experience 24 inches of cactus:

It takes about 2 hours to kick in, maybe slightly less. I usually feel nauseous or like a very full feeling where I don't want to move much. That gives was to an MDMA like euphoria in about 15 minutes and visuals shortly after. Things seem cartoonish and absurd to me, some size distortion in objects and things kind of sparkle. Closed eye visuals are slow moving patterns and figures, probably my favorite cevs next to dmt. Its a very slowly developing and flowing lucid trip, never gets to intense and I don't feel on the verge of being out of control but it is a good strength. I get reminded periodically that you have cactus in your stomach peridoically but I've never puked from it. As long as you don't use it recklessly you will probably enjoy it. I prefer day tripping on it.
 
despine it, peel it and cut away the green layer

use only the green layer

basically you want to isolate and then dry the green layer.
 
HigherAwareness said:
Tonight i will have my 4th dream in which San Pedro is involved. I have had 3 previous dreams that were sort of mild. I am an experienced psychonaut, since the late 90's. Last night I dreamt i was crushing about 18" of dried trichocereus Pachanoi into powder. This was in an effort to capsule it up as I had done in a previous dream. This dream was the most powerful when compared to other dreams in which I ate the Cacti raw. We will see what happens. let you guys know upon my awakening
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If you like the cacti experience in your dreams you would probably have an awesome time trying it for real. ;)
 
my method that worked every time I did it:

1. cut one foot of san pedro into small chunks (spines and white part and all), blend with small amount of water
2. cook on medium high heat until it bubbles up then turns into snotty texture (30 minutes)
3. strain the cactus pulp out with a t-shirt and add a little more water.
4. cook liquid mixture on medium low heat for ~2 hours or until reduced down to one shot of liquid
5. allow to cool, ingest, fly high.
 
Dammit, Ok so last night I had another dream. I took over 1 1/2 foot of dried san pedro. Capsuled it up (It made 30 capsules) and waited 2 hours. I definitely felt different at first. I smoked some pot (In my dream mind you) around the 3 hour mark and the effects began to kick in. All in all it was a kind of weak experience. I had no visuals closed eye or open eye. At times I felt my face being stretched. Also I felt like liquid. Honestly I just felt really stoned. Also the whole night had a "pink" vibe to it. i dont remember what was pink but I kept seeing and sensing pink. This has occured in other san pedro dreams as well. I fell asleep way before 12 hours which is supposed to be impossible on Mescaline. My previous experiences were slightly stronger. I ate more than ever this time. I will confess I only skinned about half of it before I dried it under the fan as skinning it is a huge pain in the ass. But it was dried and crushed. WTF? I about ready to give up on San Pedro. I have rooted almost every piece I have cut off. Treated the organism with much respect. Maybe im just used to tripping mega balls on acid in my dreams. I know Mescaline is different and more gentle but honestly I could eat 2 baby shrooms and trip way harder than this. My previous experiences with only 12 inches were stronger than last night . (SIGH)
 
Yah I've noticed and I'm pretty sure its been reported San pedro has tremendous amount of variability in alkaloids from different cactus and the same cactus even if it hasn't fully matured.
 
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