Misc Safe DXM dosage?

[duncandonuts]

I had my first DXM experience about three weeks ago. I weigh 200 pounds (90 kilograms) and I wanted to experience first plateau, so I used the DXM calculator at http://dxm.darkridge.com/calc.html to determine my dosage for first plateau. My recommended dosage for first plateau was 244 mg. I took 240 mg and experienced typical but strong first plateau effects. Slight double vision, weak music induced euphoria, dizziness, nausea, and slight distortion is visual perception. I enjoyed the experience, as the nausea was very minor, almost non-existent. I wish to have a stronger experience, because these first plateau effects are very similar to being drunk with some added perks. I want to have a more meaningful experience, maybe a very weak third plateau experience. I have 360 mg left, and for my next experience I would like to take it all, because if I took the same dose the remaining amount (120 mg) would be essentially useless. Jumping from 240 mg to 360 mg is a 50% increase, so I am worried this will be too overwhelming. I do not have a trip sitter and would like to keep this experience to myself as my room mate is against drug use. Is this a safe increase in dosage? I wish to be as safe as possible. Or should I make a smaller increase such as 25% (300 mg)? Thanks.

 

[Lorne???]

Um, yeah it's safe. Unlikely you will reach third plateau, though, but good luck.

Take diphenhydramine for the nausea, 37.5-50mg.

Good luck

 

[TheGrasshopper]

Diph will put you to sleep. Eat crackers or something to soak up and settle your stomach contense between every swig or two.

Lorne, have you ever taken a high dose of diph? It took every bit of my mental conviction to sit still and not start screaming or running wild. Very.. unsettling high. Never fun.

 

[Lorne???]

^^^ yeah it fucking sucks to take too much diph, I've overtaken it, but I've never taken fucking 50 tablets to "trip" line done people do, if that's what you mean. But yeah, I've taken too much, and even the anti-cholinergic effects from taking a little too much suck.
But wasn't suggesting abusing it; just taking the recommended dose, to prevent emesis.( A standard dose being 37.5-50mg, 1.5-2 tablets.).

If you've robotripped, then you know, a mild sedative is unlikely to knock you out of a third plateau. First, yeah, cuz that just makes you feel fucking goofy anyway, but once the real "tripping"/introspection begins though, well, I certainly couldn't sleep on a whim.(I take diph every day though).

I'm not that experienced with DXM to begin with, but I have used it before, and have seen many people, they weren't sleeping and they all complained of intense nausea.
But the one time I reached that phase, no way in hell I was sleeping, it was far too intense.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

I find dimenhydrinate to be better for nausea. Diphenhydramine is more for histamine (itching)

 

[duncandonuts]

Ended up taking the 360mg, waiting a couple hours and only noticing some minor effects, (slight "robo" walk, intense drowsiness, reduced hand eye co-ordination) but visual and auditory perceptions did not change (no music induced euphoria, music sounded like normal). I ended up falling a sleep two hours after ingestion with minimal effects. Should have expected that because I had a fatty meal 2+ hours before ingestion of the DXM. I woke up in a haze, but other than the things I listed there were no other effects. Wasted my money on tussin cough gels, seems like something too expensive to make a habit out of. If it takes $30 to reach an altered state of consciousness for a few hours, that is almost as expensive as a dope habit. Doesn't seem worth it to me at lower doses.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

Well price discussion isn't really allowed (when talking in exact numbers) but I can say that I've found fells much cheaper than that, and if you can stand the taste; generic brand syrup is a fraction of that for a total of 750mg per bottle. That's enough for 2 or 3 low doses or 1 intense dose (for me anyways)

 

[TheCuriousOne]

Yeah, DXM tolerance rises pretty quickly and what you took was way too less imo.
I don't even get on Plateau 2 with 360mg.

You should try taking at least 400-500mg at once... and 2 hours later some booster doses (90mg every 30 minutes) or so
This will get you a REAL Dxm trip, not a stupid drunk feeling.

I don't think you really got to know DXM.
DXM can be a mind-blowing, introspective and very dissociative and psychedelic tool to explore your perception from a whole new perspective.
What you took was just a waste, you should have taken more... OR waited longer, so the tolerance could fall a bit

 

[Lorne???]

I find dimenhydrinate to be better for nausea. Diphenhydramine is more for histamine (itching)

They are the same thing. Dimenhydrinate(Dramamine) is an almost even mixture of diphenhydramine and theophylline.

If I recall, 50mg diphenhydrinate= 27.5mg diphenhydramine and 22.5mg theo.

The theophylline is there to reduce drowsiness, but it's a weaker stimulant than diphenhydramine is a hypnotic, do the effect is virtually identical.

They can both be used for nausea, or allergies, but considering theo has practically no thereapuetic benefit, I stick with diph(not to mention, it's far cheaper;

It is 88 cent for 36 diphenhydramine(25mg tablets) at Wal Mart, you can't beat that!!!

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

Huh.. interesting, I didn't know that.. they effect me differently though. They both make me drowsy so I've tried them both as a sleep aid; however while they both knock me out, there is one key difference.

Diphenhydramine puts me deep into dream land, while dimenhydrinate makes me sleep with no dreams.
I take diphenhydramine every night because before I started I had very few dreams and I LOVE dreaming. It's like a free trip of its own to me.