Rob Riches and Tyson Gay busted

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Rob Riches recently failed a drug test as we all know, he claimed he "accidently took craze". Well first, why would the ceo of a supplement company walk into a store and buy craze ? How can you accidently take something ? IMO it's just another try to cover the truth.
Tyson Gay basically said he put his trust into someone else and was let down. Another lie imo...
They got busted but there is no way usain bolt (example) and all the top guys are really natural.
What do you think about those two stories ?
 
Rob Riches and Tyson Gay are fucking filth. They claim they are natural but they are juiced to the fucking gills on 2iu's of HGH, high dose Masteron Prop, high dose Trenbolone Ace, high dose Anavar, Stanazol, Superdrol, Turinibol, Clenbuterol, diuretics, amphetamines... The only difference between so called natural bodybuilders and your regular pro bodybuilders is the dosages. Layne Norton and other natural bodybuilers are all the fucking same. There is nothing natural about being 4%-5% body fat, being dry as a bone, having paper thin skin, and carrying around a high amount of lean muscle with freaky vascularity. Nothing at all. Don't believe the lies they say. These natural bodybuilders either cheat the piss tests or use injectable and orals with short half lives so they can come off a few days before their test and pass clean as a whistle. These guys fucked up so they either blame it on someone else or blame it on a supplement. They are the cancer killing bodybuilding and give young men and women aspiring to be bodybuilders false hope. You can't get anywhere in bodybuilding without hormomes. From fitness models to antural bodybuilders, to Mr. Olympias- Hormones are needed.
 
They probably get caught cause they used a product that actually was something else with a longer half life
and btw, do you plan to compete someday guido ?
 
Yes I do. I want to compete in Men's Physique Division to get my feet wet and then move on to competing in the Classic Bodybuilding Division
 
You're delusional if you think that elite athletes are natural, everyone at the top level uses PED's. NFL, track athletes, cyclists, fighters. Hell, even down here in Australia an AFL player revealed that he used an anti-obesity drug. He has now been vilified for it, and the team he plays for will most like be stripped of their points for this season, which basically means that they are playing for nothing this year. If you train for 5-10 years consistently inside a commercial gym, you will know what is achievable naturally, and what is not.
 
You're delusional if you think that elite athletes are natural, everyone at the top level uses PED's. NFL, track athletes, cyclists, fighters. Hell, even down here in Australia an AFL player revealed that he used an anti-obesity drug. He has now been vilified for it, and the team he plays for will most like be stripped of their points for this season, which basically means that they are playing for nothing this year. If you train for 5-10 years consistently inside a commercial gym, you will know what is achievable naturally, and what is not.

This! This! This! Even celebrities and some musicians (rap stars mostly) use steroids and other performance enhancing drugs. You can't put on 15lbs-30lbs of muscle for a movie role naturally in a few months or maintain a lean muscular physique with the stress of touring all the time.
 
Alternatively, you can just take people's words seriously:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4W8yUx0tY

What a fucking faggot lol. Natural my ass. I understand these people have a career to protect but they fucking give false hope to young guys or older guys looking to get in shape. Without steroids and PEDs you can never ever look like these guys, even if you train and diet religiously for 10 years.
 
This! This! This! Even celebrities and some musicians (rap stars mostly) use steroids and other performance enhancing drugs. You can't put on 15lbs-30lbs of muscle for a movie role naturally in a few months or maintain a lean muscular physique with the stress of touring all the time.
this. Omg this.

I've always loved how females will lust over guys who are in badass shape, such as certain actors, and also have a negative opinion about those who use gear.

lol if bitches only knew like you and I do.
I can LOOK at a guy and know if he's on it.
 
I think the whole idea is to get all the young kids to train naturally when they start out so they can get to learn and understand diet, training, what works, what doesnt etc etc and atleast build something of a base foundation... and once they have come to realise that you do need anabolics to build muscle seriously, they already have build some sort of base and have at the very least some idea of propper training and dieting.

There is no denying you need chemical assistance to buid muscle, but at the same time thats not to go say you need to be juicing straight up as that is the worst thing you can do. I am all for anabolics, peptides and whatever other compounds to build muscle. At the end of the day, assited or not assisted, it is only a key for the door, you must walk through that door yourself (put simply, steroids dont do the work they allow you to put correct training, dieting, sleeping into results).

You can't blame the pros for denying anabolic use, we are remember talking about substances that are illegal are for good reasons becuase in the wrong hands they can cause harm, but used correctly the risks associated are slim to whatever you choose to use really.
 
When I was a kid, I wanted to become a bodybuilder and win mr. O. I start training when i was 13, following a strict diet and exercise program. never had access to any PED and never suspected mr Os of using steroids. When I reached 19, I was 160 pounds lean @ 5'7 and I realised that i will never win mr. O without steroids, and being agaisnt steroid use myself, this shattered my dream. It got me depressed for 6 months. I hated the world for not telling me earlier that I would need steroids one day. That's why we should make kids aware that drug tests are nearly useless at catching drug users. (people don't wanna confess that drug tests are so easily passable), and the fitness industry is filled with liars.
The above story was just an example of what could happen to a motivated kid with a dream.
 
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This! This! This! Even celebrities and some musicians (rap stars mostly) use steroids and other performance enhancing drugs. You can't put on 15lbs-30lbs of muscle for a movie role naturally in a few months or maintain a lean muscular physique with the stress of touring all the time.

Yep, the general public think that if you use(d) steroids, you will look like an IFBB pro. Sadly, they don't know that even those "scrawny" 180lbs muscle & fitness models juice.

My sister looks up to those female figure models, she wants to get shredded like them. I told her that it is ridiculously hard for a female to hold that condition year round. I've tried telling her that they have used either steroids, peptides, gh, even thyroid hormones to stop their bodies from shutting down when they get to 12% bodyfat.

When I was a kid, I wanted to become a bodybuilder and win mr. O. I start training when i was 13, following a strict diet and exercise program. never had access to any PED and never suspected mr Os of using steroids. When I reached 19, I was 160 pounds lean @ 5'7 and I realised that i will never win mr. O without steroids, and being agaisnt steroid use myself, this shattered my dream. It got me depressed for 6 months. I hated thworld for not telling me earlier that I would need steroids one day. That's why we should make kids aware that drug tests are nearly useless at catching drug users. (people don't wanna confess that drug tests are so easily passable), and the fitness industry is filled with liars.
The above story was just an example of what could happen to a motivated kid with a dream.

Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see. It sucks balls that the world is this way, but the sooner you accept reality the better.
 
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Yep, the general public think that if you use(d) steroids, you will look like an IFBB pro. Sadly, they don't know that even those "scrawny" 180lbs muscle & fitness models juice.

My sister looks up to those female figure models, she wants to get shredded like them. I told her that it is ridiculously hard for a female to hold that condition year round. I've tried telling her that they have used either steroids, peptides, gh, even thyroid hormones to stop their bodies from shutting down when they get to 12% bodyfat.
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GF's a National title holder in figure class.. So some experience there.. Your correct, 6 months bulking, 3 months cutting, just for a few hours on stage.. once tried to hold condition for 3 comps in a row over 3 weeks, and found it impossible in the last comp to retain 100% conditioning... You would be correct in assuming Var and Clen would be a minimum consideration...
 
Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see. It sucks balls that the world is this way, but the sooner you accept reality the better.
I made up my story just as an example. This didn't happen to me, i'm not even 19 yet
 
Layne Norton and other natural bodybuilers are all the fucking same. There is nothing natural about being 4%-5% body fat, being dry as a bone, having paper thin skin, and carrying around a high amount of lean muscle with freaky vascularity. Nothing at all. Don't believe the lies they say. These natural bodybuilders either cheat the piss tests or use injectable and orals with short half lives so they can come off a few days before their test and pass clean as a whistle. These guys fucked up so they either blame it on someone else or blame it on a supplement. They are the cancer killing bodybuilding and give young men and women aspiring to be bodybuilders false hope. You can't get anywhere in bodybuilding without hormomes. From fitness models to antural bodybuilders, to Mr. Olympias- Hormones are needed.

Elaborate on that Layne part, please.

I seriously have no opinion either way, but I know that Layne talks some serious smack to those who call him a cheater (*Braun*) but he has tests to back him up. With the way he competes is it plausible to ascertain that he has ample time to come off all the aforementioned drugs?
 
Jason Blaha made a video publicly denouncing layne norton under the name lame nordstrom but the vid was taken down. Tests mean nothing, they could be faked.
 
This! This! This! Even celebrities and some musicians (rap stars mostly) use steroids and other performance enhancing drugs. You can't put on 15lbs-30lbs of muscle for a movie role naturally in a few months or maintain a lean muscular physique with the stress of touring all the time.

EXACTLY! Same goes for when those actors lose 30 of more pounds for a role as well. Heck, I bet a large majority of the actors take something to keep their figures (not to mention plastic surgery and everything else that's Hollywood).
 
Crackgarden -

Youbetcha. As a film actor whose vast majority of gigs depended on being in shape, I assure you that roid use in Hollywood is the norm, not the exception. I'll tell you a funny story -

In order to generate pay betwixt films, I worked on a few of those television series that were all about display (VIP, Baywatch, etc...), and on these sets it was common practice for a discussion about physique training to happen almost every day. I mean we are talking about some self-absorbed pea brained folks here, myself included in that category for sure lol. So anyway, I remember one day on the set of one of these series we were engaged in one of these discussions in the men's dressing room again, just like every day. I was on a pretty much perpetual cycle of all the drugs that keep a guy ripped and dry and was at that point where I could eat whatever the hell I wanted whenever I wanted and sit on the couch all day and still stay at 5-6% bf, totally pumped and vascular. We're talking a ridiculous lifestyle here: Pumping winstrol, tren, and prop on a daily basis and eating without regard for anything except incorporating lots of lean red meat, and simply riding my bike enough to stay small (I always preferred the boxer look to the bb). Anyway, on this particular day a temp extra was in the dressing room with us for the first time and was listening to the talk about what bran muffins were allowed whilst dieting *yes we bullshitted each other even as to our steroid use - to listen to us, you'd think NONE of us were on ANYTHNG lol - we all claimed to be absolutely natural whenever we were within earshot of anyone save close friends - anyway this fella suddenly interrupts and says "You guys sound worse than a room full of female fitness models talking shop. At least THEY admit what they use to each other, and they even talk about dating every now and then!" Turns out he had done some time in that world and knew from whence he was speaking. It made me stop and think for a minute about what I was doing to myself, but it didn't make me want to stop.

The only thing that made me stop doing things that way was having my liver cease to function and nearly dying as a result.

Incidentally I know of many actors who have had close calls with disaster from mixing steroids and rec drugs. The culprit almost always involves alcohol with something like anavar or winstrol, although there is also a high percentage of severe damage and medical emergency caused from the overuse of stimulants combined with diuretics.

I mean we actors who depend largely on our physiques are a mess lol! Fortunately I no longer have to be an anatomy chart year round, but still, even in my later forties, the insecure narcissist remains, and I do utilize a low dose tren regimen to maintain my current physique.

Worse than opioid addiction, the addiction to the artificially shortened route to cosmetic improvent.
 
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