• CD Moderators: someguyontheinternet
  • Cannabis Discussion Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules

Risks of concurrent use of stimulants and cannabis?

ebola?

ebola?

Bluelight Crew
Joined
Sep 21, 2001
Messages
22,070
Location
in weaponized form
Hi.
I am wondering if mixing cannabis and classical stimulants bears any sort of synergistic increase in risks to cardiovascular health. I am well aware that this combination is notorious for inducing anxiety, but I am more interested in whether it is physiologically dangerous.

I know that while cannabis when used alone increases heart rate, there is no corresponding increase in blood pressure, so it is not in itself cardiotoxic. What about when it is mixed with a stimulant?

ebola
 
i dont know about increasing cardiotoxicity, but if you have a problem with grinding it'll make it worse. it will also take the edge of the stimulant and feel really fucking good.
 
I mix pot and vyvanse (100-200 mg) all the time, it's great. I never feel like anything is wrong.
 
This is very interesting to me. I know if I'm on cocaine I can't touch weed at all. My heartrate is so noticeably increased I just flat out refuse to do it. Scary shit and definitely scares me enough not to do it. I wouldn't at all be surprised to here it is dangerous.
 
ebola? said:
Hi.
I am wondering if mixing cannabis and classical stimulants bears any sort of synergistic increase in risks to cardiovascular health. I am well aware that this combination is notorious for inducing anxiety, but I am more interested in whether it is physiologically dangerous.

I know that while cannabis when used alone increases heart rate, there is no corresponding increase in blood pressure, so it is not in itself cardiotoxic. What about when it is mixed with a stimulant?

ebola
Click to expand...

Sounds bad for the teeth.
 
mmm...I don't have a problem grinding teeth unless I have:
1. ridiculously high doses of a stimulant,
2. high concurrent release of both dopamine and 5ht or,
3. get very anxious.
 
Mdma- smoking weed's amazing
Coke- pleasant but nothing special
Crack- no way is a person who's in the middle of a crack session even bother to do anything but smoke more crack lol.
Meth- way too paranoid.
Khat- a sure way to get stonedd outta planet earth
 
http://www.solvaypharmaceuticals-us.com/static/wma/pdf/1/3/2/5/0/004InsertText500012RevMar2008.pdf

Page 8 lists "Additive hypertension, tachycardia, and possibly cardiotoxicity" as clinical effects of concomitant use of amphetamine/cocaine/other sympathomimetic with oral delta-9-THC. Smoked THC, even from plant matter and with CBD and other relaxing cannabinoids should be pretty similar. I've had some shitty, hazy, stoney press that has still made my heart race. It's usually when I take a big, quick bonghit after a few days' break, though, so maybe that's partially influenced

I do agree with the dude that said it's bad for your teeth. Even if you don't grind your teeth, there should be additive dryness. A dry mouth is a shitty environment for a tooth, since it's strengthened by saliva, saliva dilutes acids and bases, etc.

For me, it hasn't been a big problem to mix the two. They clean up after each other reeaaalll nice. One makes you ridiculously hungy, the other curbs appetite. One makes me lazy, the other motivated. It's a good mix for me as long as I don't just keep smoking MJ throughout the amp high. Then, I can get too compulsive about smoking, while the short gap in between smokes means each high is significantly less enjoyable.
 
I have taken adderal for the last 8 years (took it daily for awhile, within the last 2-3 years i have only taken it when needed) and started smoking weed about 5-6 years ago ( everyday 5-6 times a day maybe like 2 or 3 per/day in the beginning but quit abit after the first year) i am 20 years old and was diagnosed with high blood pressure just within the last 2 months I stopped all adderall use for a full month and went back to the doctor and my blood pressure was still high although this time only my systolic was high and not my diastolic I also take opiates with semi regular frequency but i dont tell my doctor about it because the reason why i am with the doctor that i am with now is b/c i told my last doctor that i used marijuana with regularity and she refused to prescribe my adderall so i told her she wasnt the only doctor in town and i found this guy who i am honest with (for the most part) and he still prescribes my adderall and everytime i go in he asks if i am still smoking

I do have some family with HBP but only two and they are both grandparents who didnt aquire it until recently so i dont believe that there is a strong genetic predisposition but maybe alittle

I need adderall for school (even though i only take about 10-20, 15mg a semester any more) it is just a must when i have to get down and study or write a paper

Also i am psychologically addicted/In Love with weed and i dont want to quit but i realize my heart is much more important so i am currently excersizing regularly ( havent done since sports in HS and it is a bitch to motivate yourself to work out when taking opiates, but i have found that a good workout and an opiate reward at the end combined with a steamroom session after poppin 20mg of OC is the shit) i have also changed my diet, much more produce, less red meat and sodium, and i also try to only vape weed but that hasnt worked out too well cuz i smoke at school and work and at friends places and i only sometimes get to use the vape but i am trying to do what i can cuz i wanna be healthy and i wanna be happy

damn this ended up gettin pretty long but i wanted to share my story with you b/c it is scary when the damage you are doing to your body becomes evident
 
I'm not too sure medically speaking if it has adverse effects mixing the two besides the obvious anxiety many people get. I will say this though, afew years ago me and my ex were doing some lines of coke and she smoked some weed and had a seizure. I'm pretty sure the weed was what pushed her over the edge since we barely did any coke that night and we did it alot but she hardly ever smoked weed.
 
Johnny blue said:
This is very interesting to me. I know if I'm on cocaine I can't touch weed at all. My heartrate is so noticeably increased I just flat out refuse to do it. Scary shit and definitely scares me enough not to do it. I wouldn't at all be surprised to here it is dangerous.
Click to expand...

yea that. makes the ol drum beat so hard in my chest it almost hurts. herb alone i find usually drops my BP but with blow it not only quickens the pace but also the BP to the point where it's almost painful not to be running around
 
whenever i smoke weed after taking E or adderall, i hallucinate like crazy. cocaine+weed is fine for me though.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top