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Right wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says Daily Mail article...

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.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html

Funny shit. I wonder if they'll roll with the headlines 'Griffin hosts tea party for the Institute of Black Charities' or 'Ian Huntley; misunderstood or just a lovable rogue?' anytime soon.

Charlie Brooker wrote a piece reflecting this on the Guardian too which is hilarious.

Pat yourselves on the back by the way if you're not a frothing mouth racist because, shock horror, you're not a simpleton like they are. Well done you!
 
Does anyone have a link to the actual study? From reading that article it would seem that people with lower intelligence are more prone to authoritarianism and prejudice towards others, something the left wing can't claim to have not been involved in prolifically through the last century. I wonder what the study would have found if it had asked 'do you agree that the rich should be taxed in order to pay for the medical expenses of those who cannot afford them'? A large percentage of this country has been left wing for a long time, way back before the 1960s/70s when homophobia and racism was pretty much the norm in both sides of the political spectrum.

I also take this to mean that the left wingers/liberals on here are now happy with IQ as a form of measurement? I was pretty sure they didn't like it, because once you accept that it is a valid measurement you open a can of worms... for instance IQ differences between genders and races?
 
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Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
Does anyone have a link to the actual study? From reading that article it would seem that people with lower intelligence are more prone to authoritarianism and prejudice towards others,
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Either that, or "lower tested intelligence" goes along with authoritarianism and prejudice toward others due to some "other factor".... one can't really establish cause and effect, only that the traits seem to go together.

Fwiw, I'd guess that very emotionally reactive people have those traits, and could test lower in IQ due to emotions slowing down and complicating their thinking...
 
Dedbeet said:
Either that, or "lower tested intelligence" goes along with authoritarianism and prejudice toward others due to some "other factor".... one can't really establish cause and effect, only that the traits seem to go together.

Fwiw, I'd guess that very emotionally reactive people have those traits, and could test lower in IQ due to emotions slowing down and complicating their thinking...
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We were talking about it in gibberings but it was a contentious issue. Something to do with higher intelligence leading to novelty seeking behaviour.
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
We were talking about it in gibberings but it was a contentious issue. Something to do with higher intelligence leading to novelty seeking behaviour.
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All I'm questioning is cause/effect, fwiw... for example, why couldn't novelty-seeking behavior perhaps lead to higher intelligence? Due to someone's nature to explore new things, learn new things and new ways of thinking, become more open-minded? Unless someone has established that intelligence is 100% inborn/hereditary, which I doubt, given that people can get different scores on an IQ test at different points in their life.
 
Dedbeet said:
All I'm questioning is cause/effect, fwiw... for example, why couldn't novelty-seeking behavior perhaps lead to higher intelligence? Due to someone's nature to explore new things, learn new things and new ways of thinking, become more open-minded? Unless someone has established that intelligence is 100% inborn/hereditary, which I doubt, given that people can get different scores on an IQ test at different points in their life.
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I don't mind you questioning cause and effect, it is interesting. It would be helpful to see the actual study, because if it's anything like the studies which show higher drug use among the more intelligent then the IQ difference will be nigh on insignificant i.e. less than 5. (Interestingly the same gap between the average male and female IQ)
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
A large percentage of this country has been left wing for a long time, way back before the 1960s/70s when homophobia and racism was pretty much the norm in both sides of the political spectrum.
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Strange that they keep voting in ever-increasing far-right governments tho - from Thatcher to Blair to Cameron.
 
Ismene said:
Strange that they keep voting in ever-increasing far-right governments tho - from Thatcher to Blair to Cameron.
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Nice theory... It would be correct were Thatcher not more right wing than both Blair and Cameron in every concievavble way. Blair let in millions of migrant workers, and upped spending across the board in the public sector, how far right can you get? Furthermore the average IQ has risen by 10-20 points since Thatcher was in, so if what you were saying was correct it would conflict with the findings of the study. If you think that the current government is far right, instead of just right of center, you need your head examining. But hey, I did forget that far right is just a term used by some people on the left to try and slur anyone they don't like.
 
RLP said:
Pat yourselves on the back by the way if you're not a frothing mouth racist because, shock horror, you're not a simpleton like they are. Well done you!
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Now let's not resort to picking on the lazy sterotype of the swivel-eyed, dim-witted reactionary bigot shall we?

On second thoughts:

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SamhainGrim said:
Now let's not resort to picking on the lazy sterotype of the swivel-eyed, dim-witted reactionary bigot shall we?

On second thoughts:

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I don't think people like that even really understand politics. If you asked those blokes who they vote for, they will probably say no one, if they do vote it will almost certainly be Labour, failing that they will say BNP. I'd be very surprised if they voted Tory, and weren't in with the we-automatically-hate-thatcher brigade...

Has anyone found the original study yet? I can't find it.
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
if they do vote it will almost certainly be Labour, failing that they will say BNP. I'd be very surprised if they voted Tory, and weren't in with the we-automatically-hate-thatcher brigade...
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I wouldn't be so sure of that. The Tories have always had a solid base in deprived areas - think of a deprived area that doesn't have a Conservative club in it and I know I struggle. Which is not to say that these people even come from deprived areas at all - we're making assumptions based on their appearance.

I agree that they're more likely to be non-voters than anything, but Labour voters? Maybe some of their family had tribal affiliations a couple of decades back, but that's about it.
 
Labour voters? Really? This is about the third isolated thing I've seen on the internet today which is making me wonder if I'm still asleep and having a particularly strange and vivid dream. If you're serious then that speaks volumes about you.
 
Yep. The photo in question is from an EDL march.

Incidentally, the following findings came from a sample of 1295 activists and sympathisers. They were asked: Who would they vote for?

BNP – 34% (public: 2% )
UKIP – 14% (3% )
Conservative – 14% (36% )
Labour – 9% (29% )
Lib Dem – 3% (23% )

Source: Demos - Inside The EDL(2011)
 
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