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Research linking ecstasy to brain damage 'flawed'

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Research linking ecstasy to brain damage 'flawed'
Scientific evidence that ecstasy damages the brain is fundamentally flawed and has misled politicians and the public, a report claims.
An inquiry by New Scientist magazine concluded that many of the findings published in respected journals cannot be trusted.
Similar uncertainty surrounds evidence that ecstasy impairs mental performance, according to New Scientist. In the majority of tests of mental agility, ecstasy users performed as well as non-users.
Marc Laruelle, an expert on brain scanning at Columbia University, New York City, said: "All the papers have very significant scientific limitations that make me uneasy."
He pointed out that the chemical probes used in ecstasy brain scans do not always stick solely to serotonin transporters.
Psychologist Andrew Parrott, of the University of East London, found ecstasy users outperformed non-users in tests requiring them to rotate complex shapes in their mind's eye.
Ecstasy users did perform worse when learning new verbal information. But according to Mr Parrott their performance still lay well within the range of what counts as normal.
At the centre of the controversy are scans which allegedly show that ecstasy destroys nerve cells involved in the production and transport of serotonin, a vital brain chemical.
Serotonin allows neurons to communicate with each other across nerve connections called synapses. It is involved in a wide range of functions including memory, sleep, sex, appetite, and primarily, mood.
In an editorial, the magazine said: "Our investigation suggests the experiments are so irretrievably flawed that the scientific community risks haemorrhaging credibility if it continues to let them inform public policy."
New Scientist says it is an open secret that some researchers who failed to find impairment in ecstasy users had trouble getting their findings published. The Lancet medical journal has declined to comment on the report.
Reproduced without permission... http://www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_568924.html
This article is only available in the "hard copy" edition of the New Scientist
 
From personal experience i feel ecstasy definetly does cause some sort of brain damage / impairment.
I have been using ecstasy now for two years and i can honestly say it has affected me adversly..
In saying this i dont regret much in the last two years of my life in terms of ecstasy use...
Although cutting short some of the numerous all night binges though would probably be on the cards..
 
"Our investigation suggests the experiments are so irretrievably flawed that the scientific community risks haemorrhaging credibility if it continues to let them inform public policy."
To stop bleeding apply pressure! Good one New Scientist :)
It's rather shocking but hardly surprising. Much of the MDMA research done in the US is sponsored by government anti-drugs agencies. I'm pretty sure Ricaurte was/is. Their mission is to send a message that drugs are BAD, and therefore funding is primarily designed to dig up shit. Bias in its essence.
Trouble is, who wants to pay for the REAL research? It’s not worth while for any pharmaceutical company, and what enterprising, hopeful of employment graduate would want to do a thesis on this? The politics are huge! With such a strong arm of presentation, little voices of CREDIBILITY often find small audiences.
Like all truth, bit by bit it comes out, with the instigators of misinformation, simply changing department. Of course MDMA is not good for you in large amounts or too often, we know that. We don’t need PET scans to tell us that. All we ask is for reliable and unbiased research to be done on a bloody simple chemical really - to tell us what might happen long term.
Perhaps the holes in this research are simply the result of so much investigation by so many in pursuit of lasting happiness. If so it makes you wonder what mistakes, criteria and assessment are flawed in studies for things we trust as safe which surround our environment.
And not wanting to dampen excitement, but New Scientist is hardly a journal publication. It’s more like a science marvel magazine, and subject to journalists’ interpretations, credible as they may often seem.
 
And not wanting to dampen excitement, but New Scientist is hardly a journal publication. It’s more like a science marvel magazine, and subject to journalists’ interpretations, credible as they may often seem.
True, but any journal article would be so inundated with technical garbage that the average reader would miss the point. New Scientist dumbs it down for us regular folk. The journo's would be relatively informed on the subjects they discuss I presume.
[ 19 April 2002: Message edited by: johnnyonelove ]
 
New Scientist comes through with the goods once again. The only mainstream publication I know that prints the simple truth.
Yep, and an interesting article... trick is not to make the same mistake by suspending your own critical faculties when you happen to agree with something.
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I doubt I will be very popular after you read my comments, but there seems to be a tendency with posters on this site to immediately condemn any publication that is considered to be "Anti Ecstasy", regardless of qualifications of the researchers, or the integrity of the principals and methodology applied to the research carried out, but in the case of apparently unsubstantiated articles such as this, the tendency is to accept them as fact and use them to validify our already biased preconceptions.
It would do us all good to carefully consider the New Scientist article in light of the following comments...
Upon re-examination there's something amateurish about that study. The author quotes an animal half-life for MDMA in the system, but doesn't seem to know the human half-life. He claims the subjects were abstinent for two weeks, but the (unspecific) procedure for ensuring that (drug tests) sounds like it only consisted of a single blood/urine test. Repeated tests or altered methodology (hair samples?) would be needed to actually guarantee they were abstinent for more than a few days. Equally problematic is our dependence on subject self-reporting on sleep habits. Raving drug users got a solid week of 7-9 hours quality sleep before the last tests? Every last one of them? That's hardly credible among normal people, and the author even notes that the subjects reported erratic sleep habits (apparently their quality of sleep greatly increased across the board just for his convenience at the last minute.) Re-reading of the material also finds the statement that "scores either declined or remained static". Not everybody's scores went down? Perhaps it was just the heaviest users (who reported using up to 15 times a month!). We need the raw data. There's also a somewhat unprofessional feel to the writing style that bothers me, but that's another matter. What impressed me with the first scan now looks more like a low-budget 'publicity stunt' type piece of research. God knows the author didn't go to much trouble or expense or try very hard to maintain experimental integrity.
and…
This is all true; much of the research is flawed, and NIDA funded (and many other) projects are deliberately skewed toward finding problems.
Unfortunately, this doesn't mean MDMA does not cause neurotoxicity and memory problems, at some dose and frequency use patterns.
One big problem with most of the studies is comparing MDMA users with non-users and assuming they are very close in brain function except for the MDMA use. But people who like to use a lot of MDMA are just not the same; there could well be brain differences which incline them toward the experience and also show up as differences on these tests.
The scientific debate is summarized in a couple of papers:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/articles/references.cgi?ID=380
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/articles/references.cgi?ID=408
There is one study which compared the same people before and after getting involved with Ecstasy (and the rave scene):
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/articles/references.cgi?ID=1134
Here the big question (in my mind) is whether memory problems happened to all the subjects, or only to those who did heavy, frequent doses.

[ 19 April 2002: Message edited by: Bootlegger ]
 
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