Tryptamines Reports of people vaping and smoking psilocybin and psilocin

[red22]

Psilocin, on the other hand, will apparently survive gas chromatograph injection temperatures, so it can be vaporized. That's not to say that you could just hit it with a lighter though. Injecting something through a heated port is not the same as actually burning it.

fastfred, 08/06/07, Re: Vaporizing shrooms?


Freebase Psilocin vaporizes and smokes *very* well. Dose roughly the same or less as what you would eat. Perhaps redose with a bit more after a few minutes.

This is a much nicer experience than smoked DMT, in my experience. Peaks for an hour and a half. Minimal physical side effects and more pronounced euphoria.

I would have to assume it works just as well with 4-aco-DMT freebase.

@bluedolphin, 1/6/2012, https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/vaporizing-4-aco-dmt.528954/post-10225249


Shit yes you can do this, it was the first one I did after perfecting DMT. This was my best results

3x anhydrous acetone wash of dried, powdered biomass 3x extraction with anhydrous IPA Dry under vacuum. If you kept the moisture out, it will dry out into a flaky crust.

The extract will suspend in VG PEG

Not so much in terpene blends like DMT will.

It is a fairly short, maybe 45-90 mins duration, not much of a peak, it mostly drops off from where you stop vaping , but it is fun for public occasions or when you don't want to get high for too long.

Never got into psilocybin vs psilocin, my goal was preserving the highest amount of active compounds.

IMO it isn't really worth the work, 4acodmt is much easier to prepare a vapeable formulation.

Compounds that I have successfully formulated for vaping:

Nndmt
Nnnmt
5meodmt
4acodmt
Mushroom extract
DPT
Harmine
Harmaline
Tetrahydroharmine

I know that these all CAN be vaped, whether you want to or not With the exception of the mushroom extract, these compounds can pretty much be done with the same or similar preparations and all had the desired effect to varying degrees when I made them.

BabsAndRog, Jul 12, 2024, reddit


I have personally vaped & smoked extracted psilocybin and it works incredibly well. You peak within a min and it lasts about 2 hours, it's a lot more intense. It doesn't eat up tolerance as quickly, it's convenient and it feels more like DMT. Best part is that you can slowly titrate your desired dose, so imo, it's a safer method than taking it orally, so long as you measure your doses well.

People will go on about the boiling point etc but it's never been studied in terms of being smoked. The only studies that exist are about degradation over time.

Head over to r/researchchemicals and you'll find loads and loads of people who successfully smoke analogs that are nearly indistinguishable and chemically similar to [4-PO-DMT], particularly 4-ACO-DMT.

If literally every single psychedelic tryptamine is smokable, it's just nonsense to suggest that [4-PO-DMT] isn't.

4-5sub, Feb 21, 2024, https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics/s/59p7jRsS7Z

Brah if you took all the time to wine like this... just try it. It's not hard. Use the DMT extraction tek.

Feb 22, 2024, reddit


there is a freebase Psilocybin and Psilocin. you don't want to put the flam directly on the crystals which is freebased form of psilocybin! just trying to clear that up! put it into a glass pipe and heat the bottom every so often and smoke the vapor from it. the same way you would do with DMT crystals.

and it is not like DMT it is in my experience like the cleanest form of shrooms you have ever had. no stomach problems no nausea Ect. pure visuals less mind phuck.

I have done this many times. make sure that you use a close to non soluble solution in the precipitation step! you need to use Methanol/ Ethanol. preferably Ethanol since it is not poisonous and doesn't need any extra steps to rid the poison. Psilo is way too soluble in water which would just keep it bonded in the freeze step which wouldn't allow all to drop and crystallize. ethanol is only about 30% psilo soluble. hence the drop occurs!

trust me it works. ive done it.

there are many knowledgeable people in this community that i believe capable of confirming what i have said provided they have done this. and I'm sure someone has successfully done this well!

SlyRabbit, 06/12/14, Re: Smoking Psilocybin Freebase Extract.


I have read a few reports, and the reporters have a trip they say is comparable to DMT.

retrospect, 08/06/07, Smoking Psilocybin Freebase Extract.


I've never vaped em, but I've smoked em... It worked. Didn't last nearly as long & overall was a waste, but for a bit, I did have some powerful OEV's.
The taste was awful and I smoked about 4 bowls of em... Had the taste in the back of my mouth every time I smoked weed or a cig for about the next 24 hours.

From someone with first hand experience on this, I strongly advise against doing so.

Shroomopotamus, 01/24/15, Re: Vaporizing shrooms?

 

[Esperighanto]

I knew an old hippie lady who had used many drugs but knew very little about them from a scientific point. She asked me why she never heard of anybody else smoking their mushrooms, and when I asked her what she experienced from doing so she essentially described what the above posts did, which is pretty interesting. She said it only worked if she used ground up aborts and wicked low heat.

 

[TheFunkeeJunkee]

Psilocybin would likely undergo thermal decomposition, cleaving the phosphate group resulting in Psilocin.

Phosphates aren't known to be particularly stable due to the weak P=O and P-O bonds. When these bonds break, the phosphate group decomposes forming potentially toxic phosphorous containing compounds. The amount of Psilocybin required to produce an effect would probably make this a non-issue however.

As for other tryptamines, it really depends. The indole can be sensitive to heat although it's going to depend on how one tries to vape it. Alkyl substitutions on the nitrogen can have varying degrees of thermal stability but anything bigger then propyl is going to have quiet a bit of steric strain.

The reason why vaping even thermally unstable tryptamines seems to work is because they're probably decomposing into other active tryptamines.

 

[red22]

She said it only worked if she used ground up aborts and wicked low heat.

Samples that were as small as the average marble, about 35mm diameter (CPAP sample series) were arguably some of the most potent samples tested.

Preliminary tryptamine potency analysis from dried, homogenized fruit bodies of Psilocybe mushrooms. Ian Bollinger, Hyphae Leaks, Feb 1, 2021 (Preliminary HPLC Analysis of Psilocybe spp.)

I've had trips on aborts that were completely off the wall, the reason has more to do with that at some point in development the fruit contains all the actives it's ever going to have. That's why you harvest before the veil breaks or right around then if you want the best results.

PrimalSoup, 04/07/22, Re: Does lemon and tea destroy compounds?

 

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A handful of years ago, just to satisfy my own curiosity to see if it's possible to feel anything from smoked/vaped mushrooms.....I pre-loaded on syrian-rue seed tea, then about an hour later I smoked a couple bowls of seeds and shortly after that I took several big bong rips of ground up psilocybe allenii & psilocybe cyanescens which are pretty dang potent (& I have somewhat big "leather-bag" lungs & can rip down a lot in one toke with a bong). I was gentle with the flame at first, hovering it over the bowl just barely toasting/vaping it, then would roast it towards the end. I can't recall how much material I used but probably around 1g of ground up mushroom material, and 1g of woodlovers is enough for a mild trip when consumed normally....

....I didn't experience anything at all, didn't notice any aspects of the tryptamine headspace, no visuals, nadda....Nothing but a terrible taste in the mouth for a few hours lol (smoked/burnt mushroom is such a peculiar taste).
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openmind, 2025-02-19, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29131517#29131517

 

[iom]

I once had access to some exceptionally potent mushrooms---0.5 g enough for significant visuals. I experimented with smoking them, and agree that they were completely inactive this way. Perhaps these compounds can be extracted, converted to base, and vaporized, but otherwise I think this route is totally inactive.

 

[Didgital]

I have smoked/vaped psilocin fumarate. It definitely works, but like most* tryptamines, it seems less active smoked and it certainly did not peak in 2 minutes, but rather a slow climb to the peak around 30 minutes in. I almost guarantee that 4-aco would also be vapable and no it does not need to be freebase.

 

[Esperighanto]

I have smoked/vaped psilocin fumarate. It definitely works, but like most* tryptamines, it seems less active smoked and it certainly did not peak in 2 minutes, but rather a slow climb to the peak around 30 minutes in. I almost guarantee that 4-aco would also be vapable and no it does not need to be freebase.

I was considering vaporizing ethocin, miprocin or metocin soon. Psilacetin is also an option, but man I much prefer miprocin and metocin. Last night I vaporized some allylescaline and it didn't seem to do much, if anything, so I ended up doing a couple lines of it and it worked perfectly intranasally.

Do we have any idea if there's a difference in vaporizing 4-HO-Tryptamines versus 4-AcO-Tryptamines?

 

[red22]

Relevant:

Newish patent for extracting psilocybin:

Extraction of psychoactive compounds from psilocybin fungus. Lightburn B, Moss R, Ranken L. 2021-08-03. Psilo Scientific Ltd. CA3088384C [Patent]