Opioids Red poppy dosage/method of administration?

[Mycophile]

Has anyone here ever used Red Poppy (Papaver rhoeas) before, and if so, what dosage and method of administration do you use? Daniel Siebert mentions it, along with Golden poppy, as being a kratom potentiator and an inebriant. I did a search here but nothing showed up. I'm kind of surprised. Are red poppy and Golden poppy different from the regular poppy plant? I've never use PST or PPD and I don't want to get addicted to those as I'm already addicted enough to Kratom, but if little bits of a poppy-related plant will work as a potentiator or even by itself then I'm interested. The bag I got was just $5 so I don't have much to lose. The stuff smells really good. If anyone knows anything about it, let me know.

 

[TheFunkeeJunkee]

Palaver Rhoeas (common poppy) has been mentioned at various times historically as producing unspecific psychoactive effects. More importantly there exists case reports of Common Poppy intoxication in the medical literature and none of them suggest this plant makes a good psychoactive drug. The case reports mention shortness of breath, convulsions, muscle rigidity, tachycardia, nausea, vomitting, anxiety, confusion and more concerningly tonic clonic seizures that required IV Benzodiazepines.

There hasn't been a full analysis of the plants chemistry but a handful of moderately psychoactive alkaloids have been identified (none of which you'd want to take) and no Morphinan opioids.

 

[Mycophile]

Palaver Rhoeas (common poppy) has been mentioned at various times historically as producing unspecific psychoactive effects. More importantly there exists case reports of Common Poppy intoxication in the medical literature and none of them suggest this plant makes a good psychoactive drug. The case reports mention shortness of breath, convulsions, muscle rigidity, tachycardia, nausea, vomitting, anxiety, confusion and more concerningly tonic clonic seizures that required IV Benzodiazepines.

There hasn't been a full analysis of the plants chemistry but a handful of moderately psychoactive alkaloids have been identified (none of which you'd want to take) and no Morphinan opioids.

Oh shit. Ok. That's a lot of really horrible potential side effects. I guess there's a reason I haven't heard of it before. But the flowers honestly smell REALLY good. I mean, they smell like something you'd want to smoke.

Would anyone here even risk smoking a little or no?

I'm not feeling like it at the moment after reading that list lol. I'll try to find a little more info on it, but if that's all I can find then it might go in the garbage.

If anyone does know anything more about it though or has tried it then let me know.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

No, I wouldn't bother if I were you. Surely you can find some Papaver Somniferum? They're common as shit, and I've had decent effects from ones found growing wild in the UK.

Don't know how it would react with kratom though...

 

[TheFunkeeJunkee]

Oh shit. Ok. That's a lot of really horrible potential side effects. I guess there's a reason I haven't heard of it before. But the flowers honestly smell REALLY good. I mean, they smell like something you'd want to smoke.

Would anyone here even risk smoking a little or no?

I'm not feeling like it at the moment after reading that list lol. I'll try to find a little more info on it, but if that's all I can find then it might go in the garbage.

If anyone does know anything more about it though or has tried it then let me know.

I've not seen information detailed or reliable enough to confidently tell you 'yes' or 'no'. It's been mentioned on other forums previously but very few people report anything positive about it.

Like all drugs, the dose makes the poison. There ofcourse would be an amount of this plant you could take that wouldn't produce overt toxicity but I'd be concerned about you (or others) continuing to take more until they feel an effect. The reason why that's an issue is because the only effects this plant seems to produce are the same as it's toxic effects.

If you insist, start with a very small quantity (100mg of dried material) and see how you go. If you end up smoking a cigarettes worth and you feel nothing, I'd stop there. If you begin to feel tightness in the chest, difficulty/strained breathing, a rapid heart rate, or really anything I mentioned in my prior post, stop immediately. Take it low and slow.

I know I've made it clear my opinion, but in my opinion the common poppy isn't of any recreational value.

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

Papaver somniferum, ie opium poppy, is the one that contains the stuff you want.

The other is a different species, though related, but in no way a substitute nor of any use as a recreational drug.

 

[daturetard]

Oh shit. Ok. That's a lot of really horrible potential side effects. I guess there's a reason I haven't heard of it before. But the flowers honestly smell REALLY good. I mean, they smell like something you'd want to smoke.

Would anyone here even risk smoking a little or no?

I'm not feeling like it at the moment after reading that list lol. I'll try to find a little more info on it, but if that's all I can find then it might go in the garbage.

If anyone does know anything more about it though or has tried it then let me know.

I have smoked it. No effects from the dose I took. If you want to have a convulsive, mildly euphotric, very scary, cardiotoxic and mildly deleriant or dissociative trip, sap of oriental poppy is the way to go. I wrote up a report under another post kind of like this. If you look up oriental poppy in the search engine it should come up. Not that I'm genuinely trying to recommend this garbage.