Red domed hqs in Sydney area.

[Fine wine]

Last Friday I had some of the recent double domed red hqs. They seem very similar to the ones at the begining of the year (or around that time anyway, could be even earlier). Clear small HQ print. Dimensions - I have no idea. They tested black on ez. There was also a rumour that the middle tested with a green tinge. I found these pills were very hard hitting. I kept wanting to sit down and had to force myself to stand up and try and dance. They did not give me the euphoria, loved up feeling and empathy typical to mdma. They were a huge disapointment for me. Now I had been dropping every Friday for three weeks before taking them so it was my fourth week in a row, I know you bluelighters are going to tear me to bits for that

so that's going to have something to do with it. I've never gone for four weekends in a row before. The other three weekends I was having bombs. The fact that I felt absolutely no loved up feeling though would indicate to me very little mdma in the pill. Possibly 2cb and/or mda? Either way I don't think mdma is the dominant chemical in these. They scored highly on pill reports but hey we all no that's no indicator. Has anyone else tried these lately and if so what are your thoughts?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe it is the pill or maybe I've gone too long without a break? I'm sure it's the pill though. My friend thought it was a good pill and it may very well be a good pill. I'm not disputing that some people may love it. I'm simply wondering about the mdma content.
Thanks in advance.
[This message has been edited by Fine wine (edited 26 June 2001).]

 

[pseudoSym]

Assuming they are the same ones I have used many a time, I and my friends found them to be very smacky and quite strong albeit somewhat rough, especially on the come down.
I too strongly felt the urge to sit-down but in contrast to your experience, I was feeling my classic MDMA symptoms. That is, nystagmus, jaw muscle spasms, clarity of thought and most importantly, understanding of anything, anyone, anywhere.
These ones I'm referring to are double-sided, domed with white speckles and from what I gather, quite common and widespread.
Word on the street is that they are Chinese imports however the veracity of such a claim remains to be seen.
Hope this offers some insight.

 

[Fine wine]

Thanks for the responses. I better take a break for a while. Three weeks should be long enough. I hope. I might try and get something a bit cleaner for next time as well. Can anyone recommend anything that's relatively clean? Alphas look good so hopefully they are still going around.

 

[DiSKoCHiK]

ya the current HQ's in sydney that are either a pale reddish/pinkish color and/or the darker redish ones that are double stamped double domed are mdma pills. however be warned as there are fakes..and it seems that they are fakes even as enterying the country!!!! best to always test (i know yo did that..better with an E2 then E1)
as for strength they aren't nearly the strongest pill out now..the BB's are by far stronger then they are..if i didn't know better..had no site smell or anything id say that the current darkish green BB's were the SAME pill as the origional HQ from last nov/dec.
and yeah the origional HQ's and the BB's currently are coming out of asia

 

[NHL Guy]

id be inclined to agree with you diskochik as there's not many reports of HQ's (good ones anyway) found in the overseas posts...
B/B's either..
I also agree... HQ's are class of their own.
While I refuse to believe 2CB has ANYTHING to do with it(i have strong feelings on that subject), i DO feel loved up on HQ's even the 'good' ones in sydney now.. are not as strong as the originals but have the same effect in proportion... I think it iS MDMA.. but you never know it could just be what else is in the pill.. I SUSPECT a bit of K.
its quite possible seeing as they've got shitloads of speckles in them...
I am CERTIAN the B/B's have quite a large bit of K in them. reason being they seem to have all kinds of fucken colours all crushed up in em.. dark blue, light blue, red speckles, even some faint lime green pieces.. i accidentally broke some one day and right in the middle of one was a lump, sorta 'fossil' like half out of the pill and i pulle it out and it was I SHIT YOU NOT o lump of sand/glass/stone (i choose glass) about the size of three hundreds and thousands together I couldnt believe my eyes.. and i kept it for show... B/B's are strong but NOT in the PURE form that Im SURE they entered the country in..
Im wondering when the human race will see the need to no longer discuss the "HQ" like it was religious symbol.. it has been tarnished like all pill stamps do and nothing is really that constant anyway.. now its 'just another pill' that may, or may not be good or bad.

 

[ful_sik_trippa]

the HQs are one of the biggest head-fucking pills around, like bubbles said, it gives a "druggy" feeling, instead of floatly and clearheaded, like clean pills will.
also, what defines strength of a pill? is it how much if fucks you up or the level of euphoria reached? my definition of a good pill is the level of euphoria(not necessarily fucked up) reached. i think the BBs and Hqs were on par, but the BBs were more social. TPs certainly hit you like a ton of bricks, but i didnt feel all that great.
i find that HQs are a good pill to have just before your fav DJs set. its a really "im off the planet" feeling, that when used in conjunction with the loved-up bliss of a ?? will ensure a rockin night. who knows what else is in it (MDMA+???) - its all good whatever it is.
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[Stylin]

ying yangs are sweet, i found them not as strong but verryy cleannn
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[Sherbert_Ass]

That "smacky" (I hate that word and although I think Bubbles' "druggy" wasn't quite it either it's much better) feeling that you get is from MDMA, that's what a good dose of the drug feels like.
Naturally there are other factors that come into play - other pill contents etc. - but that's the general way things are.

 

[jakoz]

My thoughts are still open on the HQs... had 2.5-3 last weekend... and to me it still doesnt feel like *just* MDMA (I did have a fair amount of MDMA powder/crystals earlier in the year for comparison).
Plus, it ended up more a feeling of drunkeness + tripping instead... very little loved-uppedness, more of a 'fuck I can feel my brain breaking' feeling.
In anticipation of some replies, yes, it was too many HQs... no I would not recommend doing a few of these in a night... another person mixed one of these with a couple of cleaner pills, and was hallucinating quite a bit but otherwise fine. Its friday now, and my stomachs still fucked up from last weekend.
I dont know... like I say, I have had enough pure MDMA for comparison... would be extremely interested in the results of a lab analysis.

 

[Fine wine]

I couldn't agree with you more Jakoz. I read your post and thought to myself "That's exactly the experience I had!" I had only had one pill as well so rest assured your feelings were not a result of too high a dose. The feeling of drunkeness that you talk about was exactly what I felt. When talking about the pill to my friend I remember telling him that I thought it would've been cheaper just to get pissed because it was the same feeling.
Maybe there is mdma in the pill but like you said it's certainly not just mdma. If there is mdma in it then the loved up feeling and empathy was cancelled out by the other chemicals in the pill. Since the effects of mdma are easily reduced by numerous other substances it can be easily assumed that whatever else was in the pill dwarfed whatever affects mdma could've had.
If anyone remembers back to the original flat unstamped hqs of last year they are what a good dose of mdma should feel like.

 

[jakoz]

To elaborate further on the drunkeness... it was slightly more than drunkness... the best way I can think to describe it is that it felt like a 300-400 mg DxM dosage (combined over 2.5-3 pills). Not making any claims... just describing it.
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[Terry]

I'm having a few tonight & have only heard good reports until coming on net.All I have spoken to have been able to dance, felt lovey dovey, euphoria, etc. We tested the double domed & sided (Vit. C coloured)HQ's next to a BULL which went blackish really quickly with no purple thru black transition where as the HQ changed slowly from purple to black over 15-30 seconds(text book like reaction).I also measured mine against the new red HQ pics and mine are identical

Seems to me as if there maybe some strange ones out there possibly though

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[pseudoSym]

Not sure if anyone's still interested but I found the combo of the Red HQ's with goey to work quite well.
It did take the edge off the fucked up/can't get up feeling that usually comes with these but I felt it did keep me up and dancing, which is always a good thing in my humble opinion.