ready to dtox off opiates with sub

[lifeslikethis]

Hi, planning a subutex dtox to clean up having used gear (H) for years. Could anyone help me to decide what sleepers and/or benzos etc I could use to help the withdrawals please? I've heard bout research chemicals online, Diclazepam, Flubromazepam, Etizolam etc. Are these gonna help atall. Any other ideas? want to start ASAP. Thankyou.x

 

[neversickanymore]

Hey lifelikthis and welcome to BL

Congratulations on making the decision to give the opiates the boot. I would go into a physician and talk over medications to help you with the acutes.

medications for acute opiate detox

The medications I would explore the use of for detox would be:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE< >here<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol
Senokot S is a stool softener and laxative. If you do not want the laxative you can go for strait stool softenerDioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal

You can do this!!

 

[lifeslikethis]

Thankyou for taking the time to reply. I, unfortunately do not have access to the meds u suggested. I did do a clonidine dtox in Canada a few yrs ago, but was monitored very closely visually and BP / heart rate/ etc constantly monitored so I would be a little concearned doing it just with a friend who is also detoxing.
Pls don't take this as rude or ungrateful, but Senokot? surely one would not need that? Immodium possibly, if preferred by the individual, however I prefer to let the body adjust naturally. The specific list I mentioned above I do not have any first hand experience with and was just wondering if anyone had tried any of these RC's? specifically for opiate WD.

 

[lifeslikethis]

I am starting a dtox off H using -Buprenorphine I have some 'Suboxone' (containing the blocker Nalaxone/Naltraxone) and some original 'Subutex' (no Nalaxone/Naltrexone) just Bupe. From what I've read above bout Loperamide, it could be good for the initial 16hrs or so,............................................... .................................................. ................... After the last 'fix' of H wait bout 7/8hrs for me, then when start to feel WD, take Loperamide every 4 hours, (not exceeding 40mls in 24hr period) or as needed until it is safe to take the first Sub (8ml) 16hrs minimum from last 'fix'. Then sub every 24hrs and benzos, and Mirtazapine is excellent for sleep.
Should the Lope/ Suboxone/ be okay together.?​

 

[DoneThisTime]

Gabapentin

I am starting a dtox off H using -Buprenorphine I have some 'Suboxone' (containing the blocker Nalaxone/Naltraxone) and some original 'Subutex' (no Nalaxone/Naltrexone) just Bupe. From what I've read above bout Loperamide, it could be good for the initial 16hrs or so,............................................... .................................................. ................... After the last 'fix' of H wait bout 7/8hrs for me, then when start to feel WD, take Loperamide every 4 hours, (not exceeding 40mls in 24hr period) or as needed until it is safe to take the first Sub (8ml) 16hrs minimum from last 'fix'. Then sub every 24hrs and benzos, and Mirtazapine is excellent for sleep.
Should the Lope/ Suboxone/ be okay together.?​

yeah subs are fine with Lope same as tramadol is fine with subs. Gabapentin are a big help in the first few days as well but tolerance goes up super fast

 

[lifeslikethis]

Thankyou for answering my question.i did also consider starting dtox. waiting 16hrs take first sub then and only then having a' point' (10th of a G ) of H to take the egde off, just whilst im sufferint this transitional period and the body is getting used to the sub?

 

[Tinker55]

No. Shooting dope while attempting detox is a bad idea. Even for a "transitional period". Once you quit dope, that's it. Do not let your addict mind supply reasons/excuses to go back to the needle. If you're on enough subs to get relief, it's unlikely you'll feel heroin, in any event.

 

[Mrsjuice]

Hi life's
I wanted to follow up and see how this ended up turning out for you. Did mixing the immodium and subs have any problems? If you could update that would be great as I am getting ready to attempt the same feat!

Rachel