Ravers urged to adopt new code

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Ravers urged to adopt new code

By Bianca Wordley
December 30, 2004
The Australian

DANCE party operators in Victoria have been urged to adopt a new code of practice aimed at making raves safer.

The Victorian Government today released what it says is Australia's most comprehensive code of practice for running safer dance parties.

The code is voluntary and is not enforceable.

State Parliamentary Secretary for Health, Daniel Andrews, said the code was a collaborative effort of the state government, police, Metropolitan Ambulance Service, the entertainment community and other interested groups.

“I think this code of practice stands apart on the basis that we've had a really positive partnership from a whole range of different stakeholders,” Mr Andrews said.

“We are confident that it will be taken up by a whole range of large and small events.”

He said the code was an effective tool for making events safer and covered a whole range of issues including fire safety, emergency services, checklists and risk management strategies.

The code includes guidelines on how many toilets to have on site, the use of strobe lights, the supply of free or cheap cold water, ensuring there was adequate shade and shelter, and allocating chill-out zones.

It also sets out how many medical staff, security personnel and police should be on-site.

Managing director of Future Entertainment, which is putting on the New Year's Day dance party, Summadayze, Jason Ayoubi, said the code would ensure greater safety for patrons and provided an all encompassing checklist for operators.

Mr Ayoubi said one area of focus was the consumption of illegal drugs.

“We are living in a world where drugs are prevalent and from that end we need to have a harm minimisation policy on site,” he said.

He said that at this Saturday's event in Melbourne, which was expected to attract 25,000 people, there would be free drinking water and chill-out zones.

Patrons would be searched for drugs before entering the site, he said.

Also, at the dance party would be 30 police, 150 security personnel, 30 medical staff and an ambulance.

The issue of dance party safety has been high on the agenda of operators, police, government and drug support agencies.

Earlier this year, Victoria police held talks with rave organisers and the Department of Human Services in a bid to stop the ever-increasing use of dangerous drugs at dance parties.

The decision to meet with operators followed an incident during a huge Melbourne rave party in March this year in which 10 people, one in a critical condition, were taken to hospital after overdosing on the drug Gamma-Hydroxybutyrate (GHB).


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i dunno, i just went to a party in seattle washington that had all of these things in abundance. i think the govt in america is starting to understand how they should deal with things like this alot better than it used to
 
^ i also heard seattle has a very relaxed scene, security and tolerance wise. it would be a lot of fun to check out.
 
I'm glad to here things are changing, especially the free water. I understand it can be costly to give out free water but at least a hose or something would be nice or letting you bring in sealed containers. I went to Electric Daisy carnival one year and nearly passed out in line waiting to get inside. they had no vendors selling water at the gates and no water fountains until we got inside. I finally saw a security guard come back and give a couple of waters to some other security guards waiting at the gates and told em I was gonna pass out unless I got some water and he was kind enogh to help. Once I got inside I was ok until real late into the night. I ran out of money(from having to buy so much water-seriously) they had no working fountains or even sinks in the bathrooms and I litterally had to beg for money and water from kids at the party. This really turned me off from parties for a while. I also used to go to this club that had a basement and some of the fire exits werent accessible, my mom used to always say what happens if there is a fire and you really just don't think about that sometimes, then that horrible nightclub fire last year and like over hundred people died. Wow the reality really set in at that point.
 
in the UK some clubs used to actually even completely turn off the taps in the toilets so you HAD to buy their overpriced bottled water. then there were laws that required running water. what the clubs then did was to let some water trickle from the hot tap, lukewarm and at the speed of about 10ml/sec. nasty.
 
Wow...

They're supposed to provide all the things the Rave Act ensures American raves don't have? :blink

I'm confused... how can they get away with that?

Oh... that's right... America just THINK it runs the world...
 
song seven said:
^ i also heard seattle has a very relaxed scene, security and tolerance wise. it would be a lot of fun to check out.


To be fare, I only went to one party in Seattle...

It wasn't nearly as warm and welcoming as the scene in So-Cal...

Though the last 3 months, things have taken a turn for the worse here...


Security was very soft, but the place was tiny, cramped, and... after being in So-cal where you can't be by yourself without having someone talk to you every 5 minutes, almost uncomfortable in the "cliqueish" atmosphere.

I have been told this is a complete reversal from the way things were a year ago...

And now, seeing the current state of things in So-Cal, I can understand how that change happens...

Parties get a little more commercial, an influx of pretentious club-goers floods the scene until it becomes nothing more than a mobile weekly club.

There are still a few underground parties down here that are worth going to, but the majority of them have sold out and become like typical LA clubs - where you have money, spend it freely, show it off (by wearing expensive clothes, cars, etc) and friends, or you don't and everyone ignores you (except for the rest of the ravers you've been going to parties with for the last 2 years).

Every week the returning group gets smaller and smaller, and the club feel continues to squeeze out what's left of the rave scene. :|
 
This is very nice to see a gov't acknowledging that there is only so much they can do about stopping drug use and instead focus on minimising risk. I for one hate the bastards who overcharge for water. It's always funny to see the lines for the bathroom where half the people are waiting to get a crack at the faucet for a refill. Even at a dollar a bottle you can still make money selling it. Some promoters around Chicago are starting to do this on the regular.
 
drklnk said:
This is very nice to see a gov't acknowledging that there is only so much they can do about stopping drug use and instead focus on minimising risk. I for one hate the bastards who overcharge for water. It's always funny to see the lines for the bathroom where half the people are waiting to get a crack at the faucet for a refill. Even at a dollar a bottle you can still make money selling it. Some promoters around Chicago are starting to do this on the regular.


In Cali there's one crew that always has free water...

1W1D.
Other than them waters up and down everywhere...
 
Free bottled water is always nice, but depending on the size of the scene and production costs, it's really not totally feasible. I don't expect free water, but I don't think you should be charged more than a buck or 2 for a bottle, especially if it's the only source of water at a party. Putting these events together can cost a nice dime and selling a few hundred bottles of water can make a difference in the bottom line.
 
They did this at a festival i went to in march with thousands of people at a huge venue. The guy at the door threw away my sealed bottles of water like an asshole and they charged 5 bucks for a bottle inside. I had to leave the place early because I was dehydrating and couldn't get any help so I ran to my car 5 blocks away for water haha. What a fucking country. This is in the US by the way...
 
drklnk said:
Free bottled water is always nice, but depending on the size of the scene and production costs, it's really not totally feasible. I don't expect free water, but I don't think you should be charged more than a buck or 2 for a bottle, especially if it's the only source of water at a party. Putting these events together can cost a nice dime and selling a few hundred bottles of water can make a difference in the bottom line.



1W1D doesn't give out bottles...

They have... erm....
Those 5 gallon bottles - like from arrowhead or whatever?
With a pump on them (push down, water comes up instead of one of those stand up, push the tab, water comes out the bottom thingies...)

And free dinky cups. They get the job done.

They usually also sell bottled water for $2-3, and recommend you keep the bottle and fill it up all night.

It's a pretty good compromise.
Water's available for those that NEED it, and if you have a few spare bucks, you get unlimited water in a reclosable container for the whole night.
 
Yes. Buying one bottle and having the ability to refill it for free is the best way to go if you ask me.
 
Hell, I drink from the sink at indoors. LA's water is pretty safe to drink. :D

I'm really happy to hear that some government out there is adopting some form of harm reduction strategy. It reminds me of New Zealand's allowance of piperazine derivatives as legal ecstasy substitutes.
 
It's nice to see a government taking a smart approach to this. I wish the U.S. government would do the same, or at least have clubs all over the nation model after Seattle and/or SoCal ...I hate spending $4 for a bottle of water at the club. It's dangerous. It's annoying to try and be sneaky filling it up again in the bathroom lol. And no water fountains. *sigh*

Hopefully with time things will change for the better.


...or I'll just move to California :D
 
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