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Heroin Rattle....and Can you go back to being casual?

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strifey

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Hello.

I am in something of a pickle.

For about a year I have recreationaly used heroin, small small amounts, every few months.
However two weeks ago I went to a festival, and met a guy I am now in a relationship with literaly over the foil.
We heavily sessioned heroin, clonazepam and methadone (and of course booze and weed but w/e) for three days solid, starting early mornings, finishing early mornings.

To get back intouch with eachother we met up to.....you guessed it.
This was much less of a problem for him, because he is a heroin addict (although is now kicking, although unluckily is on a script).

So almost every day for a week i've done gear, after feeling a small rattle a few times ive taken some (really, small amount, like 2 30ml bottles)meth, but am really pretty uninformed about wether this is stopping the pain or merely putting it off.
I cant tell wether this really is a rattle, or if im sort of mentally absorbing some of his very very intense rattle as i try to help him away from it.

Also, once i stop feeling so fucking sick, in a few months time, will i be able to casually smoke gear again? Or will one night smoking a small bag give me the kind of rattle im now experiencing off a good few days on the trot?

anyone?


thanks if you can be of any assistance, because I feel trully like shit, and on some sort of precipice
 
rattle = withdrawal?

So you've used daily for a week? Chances are you'll get some withdrawal, and even if you've gone through it before several times, it won't be that bad. You should be able to wd cold turkey. Sure it'll be unpleasant, but it'll also be the quickest way out.


Can you use again down the road without going through wd? Sure, but you'll find that you'll get to wd's quicker than you did before. A good rule to follow is about 2 doses(highs) per week. Possible, but extremely hard to follow.

Good luck.
 
gettin high for one night after gettin clean won't put you in physical w/d's, but it might fuck you up mentally. i know at least for me after being clean for a while i got high one day, and even though i wasnt sick the next day i was fiending like crazy, and ended up gettin high that day and the day after, and at that point the withdrawals started coming.
 
thanks, thats a relief, It wuld be a shame if this was a be all and end all.
I really wouldnt even want to smoke that often to be honest.
I think a large part of it is the benzos...and ive got a feeling the methadone might be even worse.
As i said, ive been gifted a bottle of thirty mil. I dont know if it is just prolonging the withdrawl though.
I want to go to bed now, and dont know wetehr to take it to sleep, or wether that would intesify and draw out the withdrawl. any idea?
 
yeah i've never heard that before either...

the meth is just gonna put off the withdrawal. it might ease you through it if you take small amounts and taper off, but 30ml isn't gonna help you all that much.
 
Ok, i agree with the others. Doing heroin for just a few days (or even a week) your wd's wont be too terribly bad. I mean, i know that obviously that the craving will be there, but its mostly a mental thing. (*I feel like shit...If i just do a little bit i can feel better*)

As far as the whole smoking meth thing. My experience with this is in a few hours (maybe even a day) not only am i going through wd's from the heroin, but now i am also coming down from smoking ice. Which, believe me sucks, and honestly made me really depressed all i could do was cry and feel helpless.

You can still do heroin and not get w/d's you just have to moderate how much and how often you use (like the guy above said). When i first started doing heroin it was something i did once every blue moon (no w/d's) then it moved up to every weekend (no w/d's) to every 3 days (with STILL no w/d's) but once i moved up to using every day if i didnt have some for even one day i for a lack of better words held on for the ride of my life!!

So, Summing it up for you.. Dont be dumb like me (and everyone else on h for that matter) and dont let the h take over your life. If you're going to use follow the advice (which i know is hard) and you can beat the w/d's..... Although, i do not condone the use of heroin or any other drug for that matter....im just sayin...
 
*meth = methadone here, not methamphetamine

30mg of methadone is not enough to schedule it to taper down. It's your call, to be honest you can't really help yourself with those 30mg (unless you take it at once but then be prepared for cold turkey). You may also go to detox, you wouldn't be there longer than for a week.

I may seem not so nice as the others overall now, concerning your future... Your problem is mainly mental, you're not going to go through some full blown withdrawal so you want to die or score. It may be a matter of a few of sleepless nights and common w/d symptoms. Benzodiazepines are very addictive, they actually take away more from you than they give you, I would leave that if I were you. Well, the style of life you've been living is actually a killer (heroin, clonazepam, alcohol - what kind of combo is it? what are you running away from? actually I'd read it as you're desperate to kill something that's bothering you and drugs are one of the worst way). I don't know if you're in some serious relationship (never mind if it's in your head only or you actually feel it). Anyway, this relationship is bad for you, actually it may be bad for both of you. From what I understood he's a heroin addict and you're a starter - way to go. He's high, you want to be high and he's your source by the way. Isn't it that you meet him because he can get you drugs?

You don't want to lose a great piece of your life, quit. If he quits, it's alright but otherwise be alerted that firstly addicts tend to go back to their addictions and secondly being with someone kicking the habit doesn't necessarily help that person but may put you in trouble. Also keep in mind most opioid addicts cannot stick to any of rule such as smoke once in a blue moon. It's lying to yourself. Most opioid addicts do opioids and they need it constantly because otherwise they feel they lack something and the deeper you're in, the more you feel so.

Get control of it before it's too late, trust me. And yes, you can go back to being casual but not casually using heroin. It's the lie most addicts put into their heads.
 
adder said:
*meth = methadone here, not methamphetamine

30mg of methadone is not enough to schedule it to taper down. It's your call, to be honest you can't really help yourself with those 30mg (unless you take it at once but then be prepared for cold turkey). You may also go to detox, you wouldn't be there longer than for a week.

I may seem not so nice as the others overall now, concerning your future... Your problem is mainly mental, you're not going to go through some full blown withdrawal so you want to die or score. It may be a matter of a few of sleepless nights and common w/d symptoms. Benzodiazepines are very addictive, they actually take away more from you than they give you, I would leave that if I were you. Well, the style of life you've been living is actually a killer (heroin, clonazepam, alcohol - what kind of combo is it? what are you running away from? actually I'd read it as you're desperate to kill something that's bothering you and drugs are one of the worst way). I don't know if you're in some serious relationship (never mind if it's in your head only or you actually feel it). Anyway, this relationship is bad for you, actually it may be bad for both of you. From what I understood he's a heroin addict and you're a starter - way to go. He's high, you want to be high and he's your source by the way. Isn't it that you meet him because he can get you drugs?

You don't want to lose a great piece of your life, quit. If he quits, it's alright but otherwise be alerted that firstly addicts tend to go back to their addictions and secondly being with someone kicking the habit doesn't necessarily help that person but may put you in trouble. Also keep in mind most opioid addicts cannot stick to any of rule such as smoke once in a blue moon. It's lying to yourself. Most opioid addicts do opioids and they need it constantly because otherwise they feel they lack something and the deeper you're in, the more you feel so.

Get control of it before it's too late, trust me. And yes, you can go back to being casual but not casually using heroin. It's the lie most addicts put into their heads.
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Thank you. That is probably the most helpful reply so far.
In truth the way I, and the people around me when i'm back in my home town take drugs is largely as an escape, but I do feel I've found something better in this guy.

I am terrified I'm going to be wrong like i'm sure a million people have been about helping him kick, but yeah, feeling shit like this has been a helpful slap on the wrist in terms of doing too much gear in too short a time.
Think I'll pour that methadone away aswell, if it's not physicaly ding anything, it deffinately isn't helping mentlly.
Thanks all
 
get out before it's too late. stay away from him, completely. i have yet to find an addict that is a happy user. it's pretty much the same story, and they start like this.
 
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rattle rattle rattle...that sounds funny....i wouldnt like to live in the uk.

SRY...i know that was a dumb post
 
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