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Rare side effect - Please Help

Jaff

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Went out on Friday night with a group of close friends. There was a couple in the group who hasn't done much rolling, and the only pills they have ever had, have been speed bombs.
I got Mitsi Turbos for everybody. I warned them about the MDMA effects (eyes rolling & put on arse pleasurably). I thought it would be a good idea for all of us to be together in the cars (outside the dance party) when the pills kick in. This would allow the non-regular users to get used to the MDMA feeling.
The non-regulars had half the mitsi and started feeling the effects, say, 40 mins later. One of the non-regular user's eyes kept rolling back into her head. I informed them that this was normal, as mine was prob just as bad. Anyway, went in and had a good time, Blah Blah. Her eyes were rolling back all night, which caused her boyfriend to be getting a little worried.
Now here is the problem. HER EYES STILL ROLL NOW! Its not as bad and getting better by the day, but it'll spring up on her and she has to make an effort to stop them. Her boyfriend is also very worried and concerned.
I feel like shit about it too. I assured them that these pills are MDMA (which they are), and are totally safe (which were to everybody else that I know has had them inc myself, & I e-z tested, and I went through the whole stack of reports on Pillreports.com before it was given to anyone). Sure, its logical to say that she has some sort of allergy or the eye thingos rejected or don't react well to MDMA, but that's not much of an explanation.
Does anybody have any information that has been documented about this side effect. I've been doing searches but can't find anything. I feel terrible and NEED YOUR HELP guys. Please.
Thanks
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Jaff
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"That's exactly right!!! You hit the nail on the timber"
 
Hey, sorry I can't offer any help. You might be better posting on the medical discussions forum, as there are a few docs and med students runnin around there.
I've also thought about introducing non-users to E, but it's really a huge responsibility.. who's to say the next person won't have an allergic reaction with it?
and as for you telling your friends the mitsu turbos are "totally safe", no drug, no substance is totally safe. Hmm, something like the "EVERYBODY READ" thread would be a good print out for new users, going through the risks, and harm reduction..
Also, this applies to a more broader topic : if anyone is ever with anyone having a bad experience on E (vomitting, etc.), don't take them home - u're not gonna get busted for taking them to the hospital , many past deaths I have heard about, involved the person fuct up only getting attention much later in the night, or even the morning, after they had been vomitting for most of the night,, and their friends thought they should take them home and let them sleep..
cya.
 
Thanks for that Raphsta, I agree with what you say. But, I just want to clarify.
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY
This person has had pills before, just never a pill with so much MDMA. She is highly aware of the risks and doesn't use pills often.
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As for Introducing total non-users, I don't take that risk either, unless, I am absolutely possitively sure, they will put themselves in more danger by doing it with anyone and anything. Hopefully most people don't have that mentality.
Anyone with any more info about eye rolling side effects, please post
Thanks
Jaff
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"That's exactly right!!! You hit the nail on the timber"
 
Hewwo again.
Not sure if you thought what I said was directed at you. From the sounds of it , you were responsible with your friends, and you would have outlined the positives/negatives. I just wrote all that whining crap so people who aren't as responsible will become as responsible!
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buh bye
 
jaff - dont blame yourself man. you went about it as responsibly as you could have. you researched, you tested, you explained the mdma/speed pills thing to them, she took it half by half. you obviously care for her/them a lot.
it's always the decision of the person taking the pill. all you did was assist her the safest way possible.
i wish i could offer some good advice. definitely repost in the medical section, ask raverdoc, he knows his stuff.
hope everything turns out ok.
 
Hey man, I'm sorry to hear that, but hopefully by the sounds of things she's OK now or getting better by the day. If it's any consolation, for a couple of days after I roll, my eyes do the whole roll thing and my eyes flutter only for a second or two though, and not to the extreme like your friend. It also only happens say 3 times a day, I don't freak out over it, in fact I quite like it, during and afterwards it takes me back to the night and reminds me how good a night it was.
Hopefully she's fine. Can I ask how often does her eyes roll and for how long?
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sniff it like an amylmal
 
Thanks for your thoughts and support guys. I've posted it in the Medical Q/A Forum hoping for some answers.
She doesn't think its effecting her any more. I asked her for a little more detail on what happens to her (her concerned boyfriend explained it to me last time). It seems that its more of what you get Magoo, except it lasts a few more days and happens prob 6-8 times a day, rather than three. She wasn't really that worried as she could feel it getting less extreme and less frequent by the day, so that's good. Anyway, it's basically gone so she is very pleased and also takes a lot of guilt off my shoulders.
Maybe I overreacted, but how much can you overreact when it comes to someone's wellbeing?
I'll find out what can cause this reaction for the Medical Q/A forum and I'll post it here.
Once again guys, thanks for your considerate words.
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Jaff
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"That's exactly right!!! You hit the nail on the timber"
 
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