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R.I.P. Dan Wheldon

Yep sad stuff. That was one of the most horrific crashes I have ever seen. But at the end of the day racing is a dangerous sport and he died doing what he loved so there is something to be said for that.
 
Incredibly sad, devastating to watch that. Don't know how anyone else didn't die in that carnage.

Thoughts go out to his family
 
Nascar is the most boring excuse for a sport ever conceived by human beings. That being said its always sad to see a public "sports" figure die in action. RIP.
 
Care said:
Nascar is the most boring excuse for a sport ever conceived by human beings. That being said its always sad to see a public "sports" figure die in action. RIP.
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sweet post. i especially like how you put sports in quotations.

keep it classy.
 
Because something takes skill does not make it a sport. Im sorry but I have zero respect for "athletes" whose physical exertion during their sport is pushing down on a gas pedal.
 
yea, well this isn't really a thread about your opinion on what makes or doesn't make something a sport.
 
Perhaps 20-30 years ago when motor sport was run by fat drivers in cars assembled in thier garage you could argue they are not athletes but now days the G forces invovled mean you need an intensive fitness base to survive, particularly in F1 or Indy car.
 
Care said:
Because something takes skill does not make it a sport. Im sorry but I have zero respect for "athletes" whose physical exertion during their sport is pushing down on a gas pedal.
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Dont be ridiculous. Try getting in a high speed Go Kart for 30mins and see what happens to your body.

I cant even imagine the punishment a car driving 350km/h for 2 hours would do
 
What im wondering is whether they will release the video from his in car camera right before the wreck the tv was actually riding with him. The Autopsy said he died of blunt force head trauma which I found interesting because that means the HANS device did its job in preventing a basular skull fracture, the picture im getting is that his head must have hit the catch fence. What im getting at is that if he was in a close cockpit car he very well might have suvived.
 
As far as what's been said about NASCAR, those fat bums are not athletes and there's no argument that can be made otherwise. They obviously do not impose any serious G forces on their bodies or else there wouldn't be plump guys like Tony Stewart around. As far as real motorsport, such as anything that involves turning both ways and tracks with a variety of turns, that's another story. These drivers incur G forces that would probably rip off most NASCAR driver's heads and also requires what's likely much more driving skill to navigate different types of corners.

As far as Wheldon's accident is concerned, I'm not sure what else there could have been done to have saved him if blunt force trauma is what killed him. This is a danger in any form of open cockpit car, there's always a chance something can hit your head and possibly kill you. These high speed, multi-car accidents, are in my opinion a byproduct of oval track racing since you travel at such a high rate of speed around the entire track. This is in contrast to road racing where the cars slow down much more for the turns and there's far less racing done side by side. Maybe this is something IndyCar can think about for the future as well as what else can be done to make the next generation of chassis safer, which was tested recently by Wheldon IIRC and is due to be racing next season. Hopefully this chassis is safer and can prevent things like this from happening in the future.
 
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The wreck was a product of pack racing all the cars could run flat out it was basically like a Nascar plate race without the plates. Add in a bunch of part time and rookie drivers and you get the scenerio that caused the disaster. The crazy thing to me is that Randy Bernard was going to put Travis Pastrana in the 5million dollar thing dude has never even driven an indycar.

As for Nascar drivers not being athletes im not going to argue with you in this thread but Tony Stewart is a former indycar champion so im not sure what your point is there.
 
ATLL765 said:
As far as what's been said about NASCAR, those fat bums are not athletes and there's no argument that can be made otherwise. They obviously do not impose any serious G forces on their bodies or else there wouldn't be plump guys like Tony Stewart around. As far as real motorsport, such as anything that involves turning both ways and tracks with a variety of turns, that's another story. These drivers incur G forces that would probably rip off most NASCAR driver's heads and also requires what's likely much more driving skill to navigate different types of corners.

As far as Wheldon's accident is concerned, I'm not sure what else there could have been done to have saved him if blunt force trauma is what killed him. This is a danger in any form of open cockpit car, there's always a chance something can hit your head and possibly kill you. These high speed, multi-car accidents, are in my opinion a byproduct of oval track racing since you travel at such a high rate of speed around the entire track. This is in contrast to road racing where the cars slow down much more for the turns and there's far less racing done side by side. Maybe this is something IndyCar can think about for the future as well as what else can be done to make the next generation of chassis safer, which was tested recently by Wheldon IIRC and is due to be racing next season. Hopefully this chassis is safer and can prevent things like this from happening in the future.
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Tony Stewart is one of the top road course drivers in NASCAR, having 7 wins on them. That is with professional road course drivers racing against him too. He also started off in indy cars, so he has endured those G forces.

Imagine having to drive for 4 hours straight, averaging 180 mph. It takes a different level of concentration, and stamina. I drove a NASCAR stock car for only 8 laps, and only hit 170, and it was exhausting. You need to be paying attention that whole time, while you go into turns with cars on each side of you.
 
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