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Bupe Quick Taper w/ Suboxone How do we do it?

Jimston

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This is my first post, so i'll give a quick briefing of who i am what I've done throughout my years of addiction. It started when i was 15 years old, i was in a car accident and had hurt my back, though there was no permanent injury's, i had back pain that kept me from sleeping and made my life miserable for quite a while.

I probably didn't need that first script of percocets, but being young and stupid, i did my best to manipulate the docs into giving me a script by lying and being a sneaky bastard that i was. I probably could have went without them, but for one reason or the other, i took them for around 2 1/2 months straight without a missed day.

In that period of time i grew to love them, and wen combined with pot, i felt like a million dollars, as many of us did. Well they ran out eventually, and i woke up one day feeling like crap thinking i maybe had the flu, it was my first taste of withdrawls, and though it was only percs, i was scared to death of the thought of sweating it out, so i came upon some 60mg morphine sulfates, and proceeded to eat them which of course cured me that day.

That wouldn't be the last time i had taken morphine, in fact it was the first day, in a series of 6 years or so that would take me through hell and misery, that would ultimately destroy my life. for around 6 years i went from percs, to taking 200-300 mg's of morphine, along with however many droppers full of liquid Oxy i could get my hands on. I seemed to have a never ending supply due to certain circumstances. I managed to make it many years without having to deal with more then one day of withdrawals, but eventually my supply ran low or out altogether, and i found my self living a life that had my going without my pills 3-4 days a week on average for another 2 years.

throughout half a decade i of course had many different pain killers or opiates, but i usually had what i needed, so there was no need to buy dope or other pills etc etc. I finally went to a detox and then got on methadone for a little over a year. The meth was nice, but destroyed me even further physically and mentally, so i chose to go off it without tapering from 100mg a day, which many of you know is far from fun, and in my opinion, the worst possible drug to just go off of cold turkey. I felt like shiit for a good month before i went one day without chills, sweats, RL RL RL RL, back pains and every other evil symptom included. But it wasn't long before i started back up again, and for the next year i took whatever opiate i could get my hands on including suboxone for times when i couldn't afford anything else.

I finally hit rock bottom for the i don't know? 5th time maybe, thought i would try buying a weeks worth of suboxone, i would try a quick taper that looked good on paper, but would it work? Well it did work in a sense that this time around, i was going off of opiates that all had short half lives, which was Dilaudid, Small morphines like 15mg/60mg, and of course heroin. I took the Subs for 7 days, i took 4mg each day until i ran out, and of course on the 8th day without the past opiates, i felt fine, and the next day i felt fine as well, so it had worked, or so i thought.

It may have helped me avoid withdrawals, but not even days later a friend called me, like they always do, saying he had this that and the other thing, and i couldn't resist.
 
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So i quickly relapsed like the addict not willing to give it up yet that i was. Now, after this episode, i could no longer get a hold of any opiates due to specific circumstances. I was going through withdrawals as usual since i had begun using heroin. For a while i sniffed it only, but had finally gave in and main lined it. Once that had happened, there was no turning back, and i had gained a love for the needle.

Though i had one problem that hay have been a blessing, that whenever i tried to shoot my self up, i would get extreme anxiety and panic to the point where my hand would shake so bad that i couldn't possible find my vien. I have no idea as to why this happened, though maybe i was afraid of losing money or wasting it, or maybe of afraid of OD'ing, which eventually happened twice in one month, with nobody to call 911, just by my self, i some how lived, thankfully.

So i went to detox once again for 5 days of methadone, then returned home. I finally attended an AA meeting, which i believed saved me. I kept attending AA from Mid January, working the 12 steps, i had found a great sponsor, and was really working hard to restore my self into society.
 
I made it a little over 5 months and then something occurred. My mother is a long time opiate user, but not by choice. She has terrible problems and was prescribed everything she takes by doctors in a legit manner. Her scripts had gone missing, some one had stolen practically all of her pain meds not even 8 days into the 30 days month, though she had enough left for about 3 days even at a reduced dosage between both different meds.

The last time she went without meds, she had a stroke and a seizure which was due to extremely high blood pressure. it skyrockets when she doesn't have enough of the specific meds in her system. We went to the ER, and they literally did nothing for her. The pain center would not replaced lost scripts, so what were we to do. Well i took matters into my own hands and made moves that allowed her to take a similair pain med until her scripts would arrive during the next month, but this was a double edged sword.

Until this 5 month sober point, it was as if i had a wall in front of me that wouldn't allow any opiates to get through to me, i felt invincible for once in my life. But after holding what i had got for her, i just broke down and took some. I then continued to go back and get more and more Metthhaadoonnee for my self.

45 days later, and i had taken methadone every single day. I used to be on many other times for a month or two or three, and had gone through many different Half sicknesses, or shorter term withdraws in the past. It's exactly what happened this time.

Anyways, what i'm asking is, if you have any experience with quick Suboxone tapers, let me know as to how you go about it.

Like i said, when i was addicted to heroin for 6 months or so, i took 4mg per day for 7 days, and felt fine the following week. There was also a time where i took it for maybe 12 days, and found my self going through withdraws from that episode.

This time around, i'm taking a mere 2mg per day, which i've been doing since sunday. here is my scedule.

Sunday July 19 - 2:30pm 2 mg Suboxone
Monday July 20 - 8:00am 2 mg Suboxone
Tuesda July 21 - 9:00am 1 mg Suboxone
Wednes July 22 - 7:00am 3 mg Suboxone

I have a single 2mg sub left, either i take the entire thing tomorrow, or split it in half for 2 more days at 1mg per day. I know i may make this seem a bit to extreme or complicated, but many things in my life at the moment are riding on whether or not i feel terrible within the next few days. I must make the best of it without causing my self more misery.

I must not cross the point of no return again, i must not fk this up.

anyways, how would do it, or how have you done it? thx.
 
i too have just started trying to self detox and its so hellish for me. i had about a 5-6 bag (when conserving) to a 12-15 bag (when money was good) a day habit. i sniffed all my dope. before that i was all into oxys then end of april discovered dope and that was pretty much it for me til now. here and there id get some oxys when i couldnt get d. yeah i know my habit isnt that long and its not that bad but the w/ds have just been killing me. when i ran outta dope tues, weds i went and got a blue with i did around 430 which did almost nothing obviously but keep me from taking my subs so i was up all night restless with some chills and sweats but afraid to take my sub til about 8am. yesterday i took about 2mgs suboxone (didnt feel great but i was afraid to do more because i really want to avoid w'ds from it and i only have about 16 mgs left) and at night i took .5 kpin. i'm picking up some xannies later to help with anxiety and to help me sleep at night. i brought my girl to detox monday and she was the one i had here for me and helped me. now my head races about all the runs we did and going down and getting it and just the whole process. its killing me. i just want my life back. now i have no one. so i was wondering what doses should i be taking to avoid being sick at all costs while weaning off the shit? i'm just scared and i have to be okay and get thru this with the least pain possible.
 
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