Cocaine Questions to anyone who has Overdosed when smoking crack

[tallerthanmost78]

This is my first post, sorry if I am doing something wrong, though I did read the rules.

When I say OD I basically mean anything life threatening or close to death (seizure, heart attack, stroke, serious issues, etc). This applies to smoking only please

If you remember, how soon after the hit did you OD? What happened and how did you survive? How heavy of a smoker are/were you?

I've smoked a fair amount in my past (its been 4+ months since heavy use) but lately I've only been smoking a gram or less once every few weeks (though I take large hits) because of anxiety and fear of overdosing. I'm not sure how much is anxiety/panic and how much is actual cardiovascular symptoms but really all I've experienced is heavy chest (like a small child is sitting on me, usually comes 10 minutes after the hit) on my heart, and brief few tingles (not numbness) usually either left foot or left arm. No pain.

I usually end up throwing my stuff away and go sober for a few weeks and then relapse, ultimately I'd like to be sober and already know the right thing to do so please no pep talk. But right now I'm curious about my question above. Thank you.

 

[Carmalicousness]

When I’ve had what I believe to be a crack over dose I’ve literally just started shaking from the inside out- if I’m standing- I’m about to go down. This is after smoking probly a gram in a 2 minute span like

 

[ChemDOLL]

It was the beginning of 2021 or last year, and it was really scary, didn’t stop me from continuing using but T least I chilled out on crack lmao, I was smoking from a bong but put ash in the bowl. I smoked what could’ve probably been a 50 piece to the face, and normally my partner at the time helped me figure out what would be too much but I just went for it stupidly. I had a grand mal seizure. I had taken the hit and the lights were on, I tuned around towards my partner and then it was like a finger snapped and I was on my back on the floor and the lights were off, my partner was explaining I just had a seizure and an ambulance was coming. I was extremely confused and it took me awhile to take everything in, my partner explained that after I had turned to them I stopped and let out this awful scream or moan, they described it as sounding horrible and just off, nothing normal. And I fell to my knees, then the floor and started convulsing. I hit my head on the canned food we had near by so they rushed to me and held me and my head so I didn’t slam it against the floor/cans anymore. It didn’t last long but they said it felt like it just due to being so scared and not knowing exactly how to react and what was going on until they called 911. I denied going to the hospital when the ambulance got there, I was scared and don’t trust hospitals. I also didn’t believe I had a seizure, but after the ambulance left and we were cuddling trying to comfort each other and talking about it I was able to start putting things together better. I stayed away from crack for a bit after that but there were a couple times after that I didn’t have a seizure but passed out and came back to. Still scary though. Nothing was scary enough to stop me from continuing to use. If my partner hadn’t been there I’m not sure what else would’ve happened. Been clean for awhile though and hopefully can continue doing so ^^

 

[ChemDOLL]

It was the beginning of 2021 or last year, and it was really scary, didn’t stop me from continuing using but T least I chilled out on crack lmao, I was smoking from a bong but put ash in the bowl. I smoked what could’ve probably been a 50 piece to the face, and normally my partner at the time helped me figure out what would be too much but I just went for it stupidly. I had a grand mal seizure. I had taken the hit and the lights were on, I tuned around towards my partner and then it was like a finger snapped and I was on my back on the floor and the lights were off, my partner was explaining I just had a seizure and an ambulance was coming. I was extremely confused and it took me awhile to take everything in, my partner explained that after I had turned to them I stopped and let out this awful scream or moan, they described it as sounding horrible and just off, nothing normal. And I fell to my knees, then the floor and started convulsing. I hit my head on the canned food we had near by so they rushed to me and held me and my head so I didn’t slam it against the floor/cans anymore. It didn’t last long but they said it felt like it just due to being so scared and not knowing exactly how to react and what was going on until they called 911. I denied going to the hospital when the ambulance got there, I was scared and don’t trust hospitals. I also didn’t believe I had a seizure, but after the ambulance left and we were cuddling trying to comfort each other and talking about it I was able to start putting things together better. I stayed away from crack for a bit after that but there were a couple times after that I didn’t have a seizure but passed out and came back to. Still scary though. Nothing was scary enough to stop me from continuing to use. If my partner hadn’t been there I’m not sure what else would’ve happened. Been clean for awhile though and hopefully can continue doing so ^^

So basically it happened about as soon as I exhaled and turned around, and I used to use pretty often for a few years at that time. Most of my OD’s were immediate, or didn’t take longer than 15 minutes to set in but for the last bit of time before getting clean I was an IV user other than with crack not sure if any of that has an effect or impact on that but thought I’d share as well

 

[Señor Moreno]

I'm not sure how much is anxiety/panic and how much is actual cardiovascular symptoms

It's hard to say cause crack produces both massive anxiety and heavy vessel constriction.
Maybe you could take a safe pharma benzo 20 mints prior or just after you hit the pipe. In case than your symptoms were anxiety related you should get serious relief,
Anyway, feeling like a kid Sitting on your chest should be indication enough for you to try and replanteate a couple of things, maybe that crack smoking isn't worthing it that much
Hope and wish everything will be ok for you

 

[TimTim1993]

One time I smoked like 200 dollars worth of hard and I had a massive panic attack to the point where I couldn't even talk right, it felt extremely weird, like a panic attack with other side effects, I thought I was dying so I went to the emergency room and my heart rate went up to almost 170. Come to find out the cocaine raised my potassium levels to a dangerous point. So that in combination with the crack induced anxiety and panic is what caused me to react in such a strange way. I can't really describe the feeling, it was like a panic attack times 10

 

[siruspoolzx]

When I first started, I had some res built up. Also had some half cooked goop (about a gram). Ended up loading all the goop and about .5g of resin. All I remember is waking up not knowing who I was, where, and how. Lasted about a minute after the initial black out (about a minute?).
Got to the point that day, did so much in a short period of time. I got to the point of almost feeling drunk. Stopped after of course when the drugs and cash went dry.

 

[sageling]

One time I smoked like 200 dollars worth of hard and I had a massive panic attack to the point where I couldn't even talk right, it felt extremely weird, like a panic attack with other side effects, I thought I was dying so I went to the emergency room and my heart rate went up to almost 170. Come to find out the cocaine raised my potassium levels to a dangerous point. So that in combination with the crack induced anxiety and panic is what caused me to react in such a strange way. I can't really describe the feeling, it was like a panic attack times 10

Didn't even know it could raise potassium levels but I used to have a friend with fluctuating potassium levels and it caused him frequent seizures, glad that didn't happen to you

Edit- Potassium is no joke

 

[yubacity]

It was the beginning of 2021 or last year, and it was really scary, didn’t stop me from continuing using but T least I chilled out on crack lmao, I was smoking from a bong but put ash in the bowl. I smoked what could’ve probably been a 50 piece to the face, and normally my partner at the time helped me figure out what would be too much but I just went for it stupidly. I had a grand mal seizure. I had taken the hit and the lights were on, I tuned around towards my partner and then it was like a finger snapped and I was on my back on the floor and the lights were off, my partner was explaining I just had a seizure and an ambulance was coming. I was extremely confused and it took me awhile to take everything in, my partner explained that after I had turned to them I stopped and let out this awful scream or moan, they described it as sounding horrible and just off, nothing normal. And I fell to my knees, then the floor and started convulsing. I hit my head on the canned food we had near by so they rushed to me and held me and my head so I didn’t slam it against the floor/cans anymore. It didn’t last long but they said it felt like it just due to being so scared and not knowing exactly how to react and what was going on until they called 911. I denied going to the hospital when the ambulance got there, I was scared and don’t trust hospitals. I also didn’t believe I had a seizure, but after the ambulance left and we were cuddling trying to comfort each other and talking about it I was able to start putting things together better. I stayed away from crack for a bit after that but there were a couple times after that I didn’t have a seizure but passed out and came back to. Still scary though. Nothing was scary enough to stop me from continuing to use. If my partner hadn’t been there I’m not sure what else would’ve happened. Been clean for awhile though and hopefully can continue doing so ^^

Something like that haopen to me I collapsed end up something called I think a TAA mini stroke end up having triple bypass at 48

 

[Señor Moreno]

Shit @yubacity, mate! Sorry to hear that

 

[specialrelativity]

You're fine, tallerthanmost one gram. That's virtually nothing. "t, definitely not a crack head ...yet... 1 gram is the same as snorting one gram,

 

[yubacity]

Shit @yubacity, mate! Sorry to hear that

You can't keep doing it for 33 years and it not bite you in the arse . You wanna know the stupid thing after a 6 month recovery I started again until a few days ago I took a massive blast and I felt like I was having a heart attack now sticking to just heroin no uppers

 

[Señor Moreno]

Yes mate, stick to downers and forget fuken stims. You know better than us than opis can be used forever with no organ damage, as you have seen in old people from your land.
And you know very well what to use and how to handle opi wds. Not fun, but not secret to you.
Much safer harbour than stims, very specially for us, as we are ageing. We have done too much shit and now the bills keep coming. You know what they say: a cow doesn't give birth as soon as it gets pregnant, but eventually she sure will.

Take care, amigo mío!!

 

[sageling]

Yes mate, stick to downers and forget fuken stims. You know better than us than opis can be used forever with no organ damage, as you have seen in old people from your land.
And you know very well what to use and how to handle opi wds. Not fun, but not secret to you.
Much safer harbour than stims, very specially for us, as we are ageing. We have done too much shit and now the bills keep coming. You know what they say: a cow doesn't give birth as soon as it gets pregnant, but eventually she sure will.

Take care, amigo mío!!

That's just not true. Opiates affect the liver and brain, you can find that out with a simple Google search.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Much safer harbour than stims, very specially for us, as we are ageing. We have done too much shit and now the bills keep coming. You know what they say: a cow doesn't give birth as soon as it gets pregnant, but eventually she sure will.

Take care, amigo mío!!

qft, if only had realised earlier eh

nevermind, it is what it is - a cautionary tale which will be ignored quite likely, great analogy that though SM...the piper must always be paid. It's a universal law seemingly

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

That's just not true. Opiates affect the liver and brain, you can find that out with a simple Google search.

It's more nuanced than that. An opiate overdose can lead to brain damage via hypoxia, and liver toxicity via raising the levels of certain enzymes. Because of such enzyme-related issues, opiates are also not usually prescribed to patients with pre-existing liver conditions.
But pharmaceutically pure opiates in non-excessive doses are not in and of themselves toxic to these organs as say alcohol is. In the past, morphine addicts often used for decades and were found on examination by their doctors to be suffering no ill-effects to health 'other than those commonly associated with old age'.

 

[yubacity]

Yes mate, stick to downers and forget fuken stims. You know better than us than opis can be used forever with no organ damage, as you have seen in old people from your land.
And you know very well what to use and how to handle opi wds. Not fun, but not secret to you.
Much safer harbour than stims, very specially for us, as we are ageing. We have done too much shit and now the bills keep coming. You know what they say: a cow doesn't give birth as soon as it gets pregnant, but eventually she sure will.

Take care, amigo mío!!

So true my brother but its this addiction we have i thought I be ok I was for few months then what felt like heart attack told me for good no-one and if u don't go injection route and problems that come with that opium can be done with no damage
How u doing brother clean or still on it

 

[sageling]

It's more nuanced than that. An opiate overdose can lead to brain damage via hypoxia, and liver toxicity via raising the levels of certain enzymes. Because of such enzyme-related issues, opiates are also not usually prescribed to patients with pre-existing liver conditions.
But pharmaceutically pure opiates in non-excessive doses are not in and of themselves toxic to these organs as say alcohol is. In the past, morphine addicts often used for decades and were found on examination by their doctors to be suffering no ill-effects to health 'other than those commonly associated with old age'.

What's the source for this? I'd like to read more if at all possible.

 

[Señor Moreno]

So true my brother but its this addiction we have i thought I be ok I was for few months then what felt like heart attack told me for good no-one and if u don't go injection route and problems that come with that opium can be done with no damage
How u doing brother clean or still on it

Nah, I am not totally clean nor totally "dirty".
Methadone, you know
I do enjoy some beers and specially some hash at night.
And, of- fucking-course, I love eating some opium if I can find it. I did last year but couldn't find any this current year. And I am getting too old and lazy to go to the fields myself, you know

Man, it gave me goodebumps to read that you hit the pipe after 6 months recovery from such a heavy shit. Fucking addiction, it makes us behave just as we were truly insane.

I hope that you are getting better and healthier, Yuba

 

[Señor Moreno]

That's just not true. Opiates affect the liver and brain, you can find that out with a simple Google search.

Well, maybe some opiates do, Demerol is indeed neurotoxic as an example, but natural opiods are usually safe.
I am not a doctor or anything, so if you say that opis do damage liver and brain, I won't say otherwise. But talking from first hand e experience: I am on one or another opiate more than 30 years, as far as my liver goes I sm totally fine after having suffer hepc ( needle induced, not opis). And about my brain....eh.... what were we talking about?? Nah, joking

I will read about it, anyway.
If you fancy you also can see more than one report on 65+ years of addiction individuals that presented no damage at all. Again, nstural opioids. I have posted some reports and sources about the subject before, sorry cause I can't remember tittles now and I don't fancy looking for it now.

Anyway, what I meant was that @yubacity will be much, much safer on opis than in stims.