• 💊 OTHER DRUGS 💊 Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Notable Threads 1 Notable Threads 2
    Dangerous Combos Addiction Support
    Emergency Services Benzo Guide v.1
    Addiction Stories Scary Case Studies
    Biology, Pharmacology & Drugs 101
  • Select Your Topic Then Scroll Down
    Alcohol Bupe Benzos
    Cocaine Heroin Opioids
    RCs Stimulants Misc
    Harm Reduction All Topics Gabapentinoids
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums

Opioids Questions about maybe liver damage?

A

Angelz87

Bluelighter
Joined
Mar 25, 2009
Messages
173
My doctor showed me results when I told him I've been doing perks , and ecstasy before that with some oxy over the last 3 years, my liver numbers at 80 where normaly it should be at 1-49, so it's double he said it is recovable , last night I took 2 40s and puked yellow 3 times, and I feel my liver acting kinda funny, can I still be doing perks and oxy , how long untill liver damage accures, if any one could answer this Its appreciated
 
It varies for different people, if your enzyme levels are already fucked up I wouldnt be touching percs. Actually I wouldnt be doing oxy or ecstasy either, but those probably arent as bad for your liver. Its the tylenol in the percocet that will get you. I can't really give you a timeframe as to how fast you'd damage your liver permanently going the way you're going because its different for everyone and we dont know your dosages. Why not just go sober til your liver recovers?
 
Angelz87 said:
My doctor showed me results when I told him I've been doing perks , and ecstasy before that with some oxy over the last 3 years, my liver numbers at 80 where normaly it should be at 1-49, so it's double he said it is recovable , last night I took 2 40s and puked yellow 3 times, and I feel my liver acting kinda funny, can I still be doing perks and oxy , how long untill liver damage accures, if any one could answer this Its appreciated
Click to expand...

You need to give your liver a break for a few weeks.

I don't know much about synth opiates like oxycodone/hydroconone being damaging to the liver within tnemselves, but if the pills you are taking also contain APAP (paracetamol) then find a way to get the apap out or something. And pack in the booze for a while. Love your liver, you need it:)
 
Hydrocodone and oxycodone themselves are not hard on the liver (the only opioids I can think of that are, are demerol and methadone.)

Don't take anything with acetaminophen (paracetamol, or APAP) in it, and don't drink.

There are also some supplements you can take to help liver support. I'm not going to tell you what to take, but here is what I take every day for liver health (I had elevated enzymes a couple of weeks ago, getting retested next week.)

Soy Lecithin
Milk Thistle
Omega-3 Fish Oil
N-acetyl-l-cysteine (which should be taken anytime APAP is consumed, IMO)
Liverite Liver-Aid (had a bottle of it lying around, decided to take it with the rest)
 
^
the opiates aren't bad, the tylenol is.


also, two OC40's with a low tolerance would make anyone vomit.
 
Oc don't have tylenon , I get up to 10 perks a day, if you saying oc dosennt have Tylenol , so oc are good for u?
 
^he's saying oxycontin (oxycodone ER) does not have liver toxicity, while tylenol does (which is in percocet aka oxycodone IR + tylenol)

@thread: CWE CWE CWE

OP, CWE ur pillz and youll recover
 
Oxycodone will not make your levels jump like that. I've used just about every opioid/opiate you can think of. I also have hepatitis, my levels are check bi-weekly. The thing that WILL totally fuck your liver up beyond belief is alcohol. If you have any kind of liver problems do not drink alcohol in any amount. Just take a break from everything. Are you a needle user? Check to make sure you dont have any Hep C.
 
To be honest I'd even go as far as suggesting that you don't even take Opiates where you have to do a CWE as there'll be trace amounts of Acetaminophen/Paracetamol in there.
And you want to make sure that you don't put anything past your Liver that's potentially toxic, even in the slightest to make sure that it heals as quickly and completely as possible.

So yes, get yerself some Milk Thistle and Acetylcysteine (a fucking godsend!) as mentioned above to help things along and, when your Liver's back in tip-top shape, then start doing CWEs if you have to ;)
 
Wut does OP,CWE mean, And APAP , sry for the noobness, I jus got milk thirstle , Come to think of it 6 months off daily use now il do 10 jus to get a good high, and wouldent the hep-c show up when I did my blood tEst
 
OP = Original Poster i.e. You =D
CWE = Cold Water Extraction - A process where you extract the goodness from your pills (Oxycodone / Hydrocodone / Codeine) using water and filter out the...
APAP = Acetaminophen aka. Paracetamol - What it is that's likely to be causing your Liver damage.

I'll just find you the Cold Water Extraction Mega Thread...

Here it is. This will tell you everything you need to know about the process.
You really, really need to do this procedure if you intend to carry on using Opiates that have APAP in them because your liver needs your help.

Oh, and yes, Hep C would show up on a blood test but they would have to look for it.
I would make sure that they were looking for any Blood-borne viruses.
 
Last edited:
Check to make sure you dont have any Hep C.
Click to expand...


Very important thing to know. It's not a death sentence and with a few alterations in what you eat and supplement with can be be lived with for years Some people with few significant symptoms for decades. In fact a gastroenterologist told me that more people won't die of hepatitis c than that will....and he was referring to a known pool of infected peope at a clinic. Something to think about. Liver biopsies are the best they have so far to gauge how bad the damage is.

Check out www.Hepatitis-Central.com for some good info/links
 
^ yep. Have to lose the tylenol. Use Oxy's if necassary. Straight any type of opiate without tylenol will cause very little liver damage.


However, that is how it starts. The end sucks.
 
If you got lortabs/percs then really i dont see a point in the extraction. It takes awhile to get the apap out of pills so its kind of pointless. My advice may be wrong in a way to tell someone who doesnt do drugs a whole whole lot, but the only reason you ever should do the apap extract is if youre taking over 6 tabs at a time, and at once. Thats the only reason I would do the extract. I think the only reason you need to freak out is if you have been doing it everyday for Atleast a month. Take breaks and drop the shit for awhile, or try to quit, I am. Over Long extended use is when you need to stop and worry. Your liver will recover. I suggest you take a little break. Try to make it atleast 4 months, dont drink a whole lot if at all, and if you do decide to take pills, just dont take as many. I think I know what you're feeling right now tbh. Im on this ride now, and I have been on this ride 4 different times. Right now its been a month almost. Im taking the break and hopefully done for the most part. Well see. There is always the temptation and relapse. Blah!:\
 
BananasAndOranges said:
If you got lortabs/percs then really i dont see a point in the extraction.
Click to expand...

Well she has potential Liver damage, so there's definitely a point to it in her case.
And, if you don't really need it, isn't it better in general to put as little of a toxic substance in your body as possible?
 
I know a lot of people who could give 2 shits about the apap I happen to be one of them. I said quit if its that bad for sure all together. If you puke after 2 40s, and that isn't a lot, especially if you have a tolerance that isn't good. Seeing as how she said shes been doing oc for 3 years theres a tolerance here. If it were me and I felt Ill and not mentally ill from a drug or drugs I would try my best to stay clean. If anything just smoke weed, and eat good food. Been there. Not to be a douche or a know it all I dont im fucking stupid. ok?:)
 
Last edited:
I must have a "tough" liver. I ate 10-15, 10/325 oxy's or hydro's for about 3 years and I still binge once a month. A lot of times I would take 10 pills when I got up and then drink 18 Heini's that night. 10 percs would "cure" the hangover the next day. I take Lipitor and Celebrex daily so my liver is tested every 3 ms. and is normal. Yes I know it is stupid to take opiods on top of those without extracting but I was just too lazy and in a hurry.

CWE only takes about 20 mins, at least the way I would sometimes do it. Crush, mix with warm water, stir, put in freezer till cold, drink the liquid without taking in too much powder, mix in more warm water and repeat once. I know I lost some oxy and took in some acet. but it was a lot less.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top