Interested in asking my doc for this but I wonder how much I need to be concerned about the liver injury stuff?
I would like to keep it as an acute antidepressant rather than take it every day since I don't want any substance every day in my system.
It sounds like it would work like this since it is closely related to tianeptine and people have said that works right out the gate from the first dose.
If I weren't using it every day would I need to worry about liver toxicity. Im guessing it wouldnt be an issue since people use it every day sometimes for years without problems so sporadic use would pose even less risk.
Also what about using with kratom. would that put excess strain on the liver? since I do enjoy my kratom.
I would comply with the liver tests of course so Id know as I went but wouldnt want to do and mixing if it would likely be risky.
Also I wonder how this would be as a non addictive comedown aid to help get to sleep. would that tax the liver cos stims are hard on the system all round. and or i wonder how it would be in terms of calming you down since its actually supposed to increase dopamine and adrenaline yet it is still said to be sedating. anyway that is not the main purpose id want to take it and havent taken stims for a few years but it would be a bonus. certainly nothing to be concerned abuot.
In general Im trying to get a better idea of how the liver toxicity compares to other drugs. is it more than taneptine or around the same? studies ive read only compare it to other antidepressants which ive never taken so dont have any reference. i haveent taken tianeptine either but i know lots of rec users bang loads of that and seem to be ok plus a longish history of therapeutic use. so i wonder if ago is just on par with tianeptine since they both are said to cause higher incidence of liver issues than other anti depressants. If Im only taking it on odd days how would it compare say to a night on mdma say? or a night of drinking? i mean those are both hard on the liver arent they but it isnt seen as a problem so much due to their sporadic use? I would only plan to use ago in a similar sporadic schedule.
Thoughts? as I said my main quandary is like for like comparisons to other compounds i am more familiar with related to liver issues and relative risk given the relative usage schedule.
I would like to keep it as an acute antidepressant rather than take it every day since I don't want any substance every day in my system.
It sounds like it would work like this since it is closely related to tianeptine and people have said that works right out the gate from the first dose.
If I weren't using it every day would I need to worry about liver toxicity. Im guessing it wouldnt be an issue since people use it every day sometimes for years without problems so sporadic use would pose even less risk.
Also what about using with kratom. would that put excess strain on the liver? since I do enjoy my kratom.
I would comply with the liver tests of course so Id know as I went but wouldnt want to do and mixing if it would likely be risky.
Also I wonder how this would be as a non addictive comedown aid to help get to sleep. would that tax the liver cos stims are hard on the system all round. and or i wonder how it would be in terms of calming you down since its actually supposed to increase dopamine and adrenaline yet it is still said to be sedating. anyway that is not the main purpose id want to take it and havent taken stims for a few years but it would be a bonus. certainly nothing to be concerned abuot.
In general Im trying to get a better idea of how the liver toxicity compares to other drugs. is it more than taneptine or around the same? studies ive read only compare it to other antidepressants which ive never taken so dont have any reference. i haveent taken tianeptine either but i know lots of rec users bang loads of that and seem to be ok plus a longish history of therapeutic use. so i wonder if ago is just on par with tianeptine since they both are said to cause higher incidence of liver issues than other anti depressants. If Im only taking it on odd days how would it compare say to a night on mdma say? or a night of drinking? i mean those are both hard on the liver arent they but it isnt seen as a problem so much due to their sporadic use? I would only plan to use ago in a similar sporadic schedule.
Thoughts? as I said my main quandary is like for like comparisons to other compounds i am more familiar with related to liver issues and relative risk given the relative usage schedule.
