Question about mental health....

[Cyc]

just to get this completely clear - do the mental side effects only really start showing up after prolonged use? i mean, of course i could have some sort of horrible reaction to a drug, but would a few lines or a molly bomb once every couple of months really cause anything disastrous to happen to me?

From my experience, the onset of negative effects begins with a trigger. It could be a bad trip or a bad panic attack - but you find that when it subsides, you are not brought back to your normal headspace. This starts a chain reaction of obsessive thoughts, which puts you in a very bad frame of mind and causes more panic, anxiety, derealization and other nasty symptoms. That's the best way I can describe it. It's impossible to put into words exactly what it's like, but it is.. unpleasant to say the least.

I'm not saying that's how it goes down for everyone, but I can tell you from personal experience that is how I first came to experience mental issues from drug use. This happened shortly after my 20th birthday.

 

[Legerity]

Stimulants seem to have a way of creating all sorts of scrambled mental processes in many people. Reacting negatively to weed doesn't mean other substances will cause the same paranoia but it doesn't mean they won't. It's not really possible to give a precise assessment of the risk because some people snap after trying something once and others go on for a long time without any noticeable issues. Without being able to assess the risk it needs to be assumed that the risk is there and that trying something could potentially lead to a lot of problems.

If you tolerate the substance then once every couple of months in general doesn't sound like a huge issue. But that's assuming you never get a pill cut with something dangerous, you're in a good state of mind each time, etc. I feel the only honest approach is to assume that there is no way of knowing anything with certainty regardless of how many precautions one takes.

 

[Tosh.Suku]

My advice is whichever course you choose to take, reasearch everything about the substance beforehand. Being here tells me you're heading in the right direction atleast. Good luck!

 

[Question]

From my experience, the onset of negative effects begins with a trigger. It could be a bad trip or a bad panic attack - but you find that when it subsides, you are not brought back to your normal headspace. This starts a chain reaction of obsessive thoughts, which puts you in a very bad frame of mind and causes more panic, anxiety, derealization and other nasty symptoms. That's the best way I can describe it. It's impossible to put into words exactly what it's like, but it is.. unpleasant to say the least.

I'm not saying that's how it goes down for everyone, but I can tell you from personal experience that is how I first came to experience mental issues from drug use. This happened shortly after my 20th birthday.

see, that's what i'm having trouble coming to grips with. surely you could just 'ride the high' so to speak, realise you're just fucked up and deal with it? when i had the bad trips with weed, they were all based on very scary, but very realistic issues in my life, and it just seemed to make them a lot more intense. that was really the only problem i ever had with weed. and the odd bit of paranoia but who doesn't prang out every once in a while? cannabis makes the user a lot more introspective, and from what i understand cocaine doesn't.

i snort a line. i'm confident for 45 odd minutes. i come back down, maybe a bit pissed off and groggy from the after effects. at what point do i blow a gasket in my brain? maybe i could develop serotonin syndrome or something?

i dunno, anybody see my point though?

 

[Question]

actually thinking about it now - although the problems that the use of weed brought to light were realistic, they never troubled me as much as they did in that moment. it was after my first bonghit though, i'd never been that high in my entire life and i just started having delusions about family members. it was easily the most horrible experience of my life, i was having flashbacks of shit that had happened 7 or 8 years ago and i was more disturbed then then i had been at the time....

ughhhhhh i think i've just made sense of this all haha, that is not a place i want to find myself in again. i think i'll be saying no to anything harder than good old mary jane unless i read something that changes my mind in this thread

 

[Doomed2pain]

I do completely but after my experiences and current state I have to say if I knew then that I was gonna be run over and crippled for life then develop mental health issues from the accident, I would never have touched drugs.

I said, make your own educated decisions, that is all we can say really, we are not your keepers.

Please just be safe and slightest sign I'd go straight to your dr, weed co,ke and proper British early 90's late 80's E's that cost £30 a pop have damaged more people that I know than I like to think about and it hurts me to see them suffer the way they do.

 

[Legerity]

Stimulant paranoia is not the same as paranoia from weed, at least in my experience. It can become a lingering after-effect rather than part of the high. Doing one line of coke is unlikely to cause it but this isn't generally how cocaine or other stimulants are used. The nature of the paranoia can be debated as to whether or not it is based on anything real, and maybe that depends on each person and their situation, but if you're in the middle of it then it may not be as easy as just 'riding the high'. Or it may never occur in the first place.

 

[Doomed2pain]

Like I said earlier though, genetic susceptibility to mental illness increases the risk by a huge amount. Not trying to be argumentative or be a kill joy. If I could still party I would lol

But like I said some of the shit I have seen and experienced has given me so much more insight and made me research things scientifically as my drs are all clueless assholes and no nothing about my condition. Would you believe a pain management dr supposed specialist put me in hospital with his insane prescription of serotonin syndrome inducing drugs?

I think they must be giving out the degrees in god damn lucky bags now a days.

 

[herbavore]

ughhhhhh i think i've just made sense of this all haha, that is not a place i want to find myself in again. i think i'll be saying no to anything harder than good old mary jane unless i read something that changes my mind in this thread

I think that is a very good idea! It feels like you really want someone to be able to tell you that the risk is minimal, which no one really can. Again, listen to your own intuition on this.