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Bluelighter
My scales are not exact and have a margin of error but this is a pic of the dosage i had in august of 2019. These came from a very potent patch where 2 g dried had me seeing entities already and complete ego death with insane cevs and oevs for the peak.
It took me around 25 minutes to ingest all the shrooms i was already feeling them come on heavy by the time i ate the last the bunch of it all on a empty stomach.
I was originally going to take this trip in pure darkness and silence but mckennas way is the most awful way to trip and i soon put on shamanic aya icaros to calm and guide my trip.
The come up or initial first wave was very intense suddenly everything had come to life in the room mushroom type entities had popped out of the god damn matrix through the floor and where now all just staring me down with a very malevolent look. Waves of paralysis and sedation where hitting my body to another extreme so i quickly closed my eyes and was soon awash down the current of infinite consciousness. As it kicked in harder the CEVS were more and more complex and it felt like i was flying at increasing speed through them while the most intense buzzing noise kept getting more intense reminiscent of the noise of DMT. I thought my brain was going to explode if this noise did not stop time was out of the window but i felt like the noise lasted a good two minutes or more before it finally stopped. Its impossible to describe the all consuming CEVS at this point with zero connection to my physical body. Most of them had zero relevance to the human experience beyond complex in depth and rapidly changing i was in some other alien dimension but my ego was still here.
The shroom wave had suppressed much of my thoughts as the distant sound of the icaros coming into this alien dimension beat me harder and harder with each drums into a deeper mushroom trance. Due to the supression of thinking and just bizzare visuals theres not alot to really talk about other than i believe i was totally launched into some mushroom hyperspace but it still was not on a DMT level. I did not smoke any cannabis on this trip i believe if i did then i truly believe it would of reached some DMT levels. Once some train thought slowly came back i opened my eyes and looked at the time within what felt like a very short time period to myself over a hour had already passed it was like i had blinked and was launched a hour into the future. I Got up and walked around the house and looked at nature through the window. OEVS in nature on shrooms are always on some other level seeing extremly coloured geometry in the grass with crazy depth looking like aztec pyramids i went back to lay down for the next mushroom wave and listen to more icaros.
This wave was rough emotionally with oevs in the dark i saw a vision of my dead grandmother and other what seemed to feel like ancestors guiding me from a dark place into the light as i wrested with my own mind and the endless onslaught of feeling like the biggest failure on earth and a overwhelming sense of dread and despair that continued for the rest of the trip. Mushrooms were no longer the fluffy loving psychedelic i knew them to be but a sinister unforgiving teacher that showed you the cold hard truth of how you lived your life. Its hard to describe mushrooms visuals compared to the likes of acid since its so alien and bizarre behind closed eyes. I accepted that i had made alot of mistakes but refused to accept the mushrooms train of thought that i was hopeless instead i argued with my mind and the universe and that it was unfair to be judged so harshly when we are all just human with no guide or map to live our lives. The peak was now fading and the ride became alot easier so i put on some tool to listen to for the rest of the trip and turned the lights on watching the intense rapidly moving Aztec visuals on the walls and floors. The energy of tool is a good driver for a mushroom trip and forces you out of thought patterns that are bad. By 6 hours i had come down was back to baseline world with a afterglow that i had alot of habits to change but also that we all judge ourselves to harshly and should be more forgiving for our mistakes we have made in the past.
In conclusion i believe heroic dose mushrooms to be a complete waste due to the overwhelming nature it becomes so alien you are only able to extract very little from the trip than lesser doses. Reality is bizarre and alien and i truly believe mushrooms contacts us to the spirit world for a short period of time to be taught by ancient knowledge on how to live.
I wasn't aware this was McKenna's suggested way though - although I have read some of his works - and I can see why this might be challenging with mushrooms especially. This is a higher relative dose than I was planning also... Anyway, glad you still made it into the afterglow despite the difficult parts.
