Prohormone/steroids and Opiates

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DeemRockstar

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Are there any dangers specific to the combination of pro hormones and/or steroids with opiates? More specifically IV use of H while on a cycle?
 
I'm concerned because I read a thread here a while ago in which someone reported "bleeding out of their ears" as a result of the concurrent use of opiates and roids. Wondering if that was the cause or if something else was to blame....
 
DeemRockstar said:
I'm concerned because I read a thread here a while ago in which someone reported "bleeding out of their ears" as a result of the concurrent use of opiates and roids. Wondering if that was the cause or if something else was to blame....
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Prohormones are a waste; All the negatives of steroids without the benefits.

Opiate addiction and steroids is another waste.
 
Alright. I'll post this question on one of the more serious fitness forums. Thanks anyway.

About opiate addiction and steroids being a "waste"... I was physically dependent on opiates and a competitive bodybuilder for a period of time (still a competitive bodybuilder but no longer physically dependent on opiates). Despite my dependency I made gains, had an awesome physique and placed well in several events... I don't think I "wasted" anything.
 
Also.. I agree MOST prohormones are a waste. There are some good ones though. For example... I just started "Trenazone" which is the active compound "dienolone" (no conversion necessary). It is applied topically and all of the now banned "x-tren", "tren extreme" products were a precursor to this compound.
 
" I really like Epistane, I actually just started running some a week ago. It's like a combination of Proviron and Stanazol, but without the dry joints Stanazol gives."

-Guido
 
Pretty sure epistaine is a steroid, like superdrol, halodrol etc. not an actual prohormone...could be wrong on that though. Lots of prohormones are actually just designer steroids, prohormone just sounds better
 
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islander20 said:
Pretty sure epistaine is a steroid, like superdrol, halodrol etc. not an actual prohormone...could be wrong on that though. Lots of prohormones are actually just designer steroids, prohormone just sounds better
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Halodrol is a prohormone. It has a 5% conversion rate to Turinabol.
 
DeemRockstar said:
Also.. I agree MOST prohormones are a waste. There are some good ones though. For example... I just started "Trenazone" which is the active compound "dienolone" (no conversion necessary). It is applied topically and all of the now banned "x-tren", "tren extreme" products were a precursor to this compound.
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I would be very careful with them. They can produce progesterone induced gyno and any oral versions that happen to be methylated should be taken with care. Oral Tren is basically poison with an anabolic side effect.
 
DeemRockstar said:
Alright. I'll post this question on one of the more serious fitness forums. Thanks anyway.

About opiate addiction and steroids being a "waste"... I was physically dependent on opiates and a competitive bodybuilder for a period of time (still a competitive bodybuilder but no longer physically dependent on opiates). Despite my dependency I made gains, had an awesome physique and placed well in several events... I don't think I "wasted" anything.
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Congratulations, but you never went pro or endorsed supplements or gear. It was a waste using gear whilst on steroids.
 
Yea I wouldn't bother running it again...have you ever used turinabol? Wondering what the best way to use it is...maybe to harden up at the end of a cycle? I've already got some superdrol and epistaine powder, so cheap. Can't justify the cost of turinabol or dianabol when I got the above for so little.
 
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Yea I wouldn't bother running it again...have you ever used turinabol? Wondering what the best way to use it is...maybe to harden up at the end of a cycle? I've already got some superdrol and epistaine powder, so cheap. Can't justify the cost of turinabol or dianabol when I got the above for so little.
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I prefer Superdrol over Dianabol and Turinabol. Usually the best way to use these steroids is during the first 4 weeks to jumpstart your gains. Epistaine would be something to save for the last few weeks to dry and lean you out.
 
H while on a cycle? well, all opiates lower natural testosterone but since the steroids compensate it shouldn't be much of a problem, in fact morphine has been shown to reduce serum cortisol levels and increase natural production of HGH, unfortunately morphine is a seducing little chemical.

unless you run a real steroid like test. with morphine you'll experience hypogonadism and muscle loss. i doubt prohormones are effective enough to compensate for the testosterone loss.

i actually had an ACL reconstruction on my left knee and i believe the only thing that kept my muscles (other than the ones on my left leg) from wasting away was the hydrocodone.
 
Not sure about an answer to your specific question but here's some interesting related info: I've actually read a study or report about the combo of an opiate (think it was a specific, non-standard opiate) and peptide mix (forget if a steroid was in the mix as well) that showed better results than the peptide combo alone. It was on a steroid board (which are pretty anti 'drug' as a standard unless the drugs are steroids) so it was downplayed as all the members are quite anti 'street drug' (i.e. anything not specifically designed to enhance bodybuilding). Wish I could remember the specifics.
 
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