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Drugs and the Internet have gone hand in hand for me for a long time.
And the Internet has changed, and drugs have changed, and there's been much fertile cross-pollination.
But there's a lot of interesting and amusing stuff from a long time ago (in Internet years anyway) archived in various parts of the Internet. And sound some of the information is even accurate...but fair warning, of course, as far as harm reduction goes, there is a lot of wrong information and bad advice out there, which is part of the amusing part.
But there were really some classics. Gizmo's Adventures of Smacks Past, the
To get the ball rolling here's a historically significant post from 12 years ago or so (it seems so much longer!) on USENET:
Just for fun ... the phrase "hurdy gurdy football" still jumps into my mind and cracks me up after all these years:
And the Internet has changed, and drugs have changed, and there's been much fertile cross-pollination.
But there's a lot of interesting and amusing stuff from a long time ago (in Internet years anyway) archived in various parts of the Internet. And sound some of the information is even accurate...but fair warning, of course, as far as harm reduction goes, there is a lot of wrong information and bad advice out there, which is part of the amusing part.
But there were really some classics. Gizmo's Adventures of Smacks Past, the
alt.drugs.hardFAQ & archive, paranoia, that DXM forum where you had to post an essay to join, rfgdxm and other cough syrup drinkers having public online breakdowns, random edgy teenagers, the occasional knowledgeable chem/pharm type guy who you have to wonder where he wound up in the scene.
To get the ball rolling here's a historically significant post from 12 years ago or so (it seems so much longer!) on USENET:
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From: William E White
Group: alt.drugs
Date: 3/13/1993
Okay, for anyone who wants to play around with dextromethorphan, this
might be of use to you. [B]Maybe an FAQ is needed?[/B]
First, the biochemical side of things.
Dextromethorphan acts as a cough suppressant via its agonist (activating)
activity at mu-opioid receptors. Unlike codeine, it does not seem to
activate other opioid receptors, except for the sigma receptor (see below).
As far as its "other" effects, DXM is in the same class as ketamine, PCP,
MK-801, and several other NMDA open channel blockers / sigma opioid ligands.
The sigma opioid receptor's function is unknown but it may be implicated
in schizophrenia. Sigma opioid agonists produce both the positive and the
negative symptoms of schizophrenia, unlike dopaminergics which produce only
the positive symptoms.
The NMDA receptor is a fast ion-channel receptor which is normally activated
by the excitory amino acids and possibly potentiated by glycine. There is
a second NMDA receptor subtype in the cerebellum (this may account for DXM's
perceived effect on motion). NMDA receptors probably exist in several
different subtypes. DXM, ketamine, PCP, and other similar chemicals act as
"open channel blockers." Upon the opening of the NMDA channel, the chemicals
enter the channel and block ion transfer. DXM is a non-competitive blocker.
In addition to this, there is a second "PCP2" binding site (the PCP1 site
is the NMDA open channel block site). This may be a biogenic amine reuptake
complex. If so, then these class of chemicals may act as reuptake inhibitors.
The role of the PCP2 site is poorly understood.
I don't know offhand the binding of DXM to sigma, PCP1, and PCP2 in comparison
to ketamine, MK-801, and PCP.
All of these drugs are being studied for their effects in preventing damage
to the brain during siezure.
In terms of effects on humans, described effects include dissociative
anaesthesia, mild hallucinations, enhanced response to music (including
highly pleasurable responses), and disturbances in motion. Nausea can
occur. DXM has some stimulant effects.
In terms of sources, DXM is available over-the-counter in many countries
in tablet form. Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough (not Robitussin DM)
contains DXM with nothing else (except a little alcohol). Robitussin DM
also contains an expectorant which should not be taken in high doses.
Dose of Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough is two to five full "shots"
using the shot glass that comes with the bottle.
The usual warnings apply. Additionally, prolonged use of DXM can and has
led to psychosis similar to PCP-induced psychosis. Individual differences
in NMDA receptors may be at work here, but you're still potentially at
risk. I personally wouldn't mix DXM with anything.
yes, this is THE Bill White of DXM FAQ fame asking whether a FAQ might be needed
Just for fun ... the phrase "hurdy gurdy football" still jumps into my mind and cracks me up after all these years:
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As promised, here's a true story about Swedish Customs. As you know, in
Sweden they take their drugs seriously. Beer is so expensive you need a
mortgage to get drunk, and Narco Cops grab suspicious people off the
streets and subject their bodily fluids to tests to determine if they
are criminals or not. Sweden has a particularly high suicide rate.
Eric was going to a Swedish Juggling Convention. His VW Campervan was
full of beanbags, clubs, rings, jugglers ... the usual juggling
paraphenalia. He also had some grass, some hash, a few trips, and a
little cocaine. Eric didn't know that the Swedes are fanatical about
drugs, did he? He also didn't know there was a British football team
playing in the country, and because the border guards thought his mob
were British football fans he'd get thoroughly searched.
His description of the search always cracks me up. The guards moved his
van into a little barn off to one side, and started stripping everything
out. "They kept saying 'Hurdy Gurdy football?' When they understood what
all the juggling kit was for they started saying 'Hurdy Gurdy Circus?'
a lot instead. They didn't find the stash, though. We were all tripping
at the time but I don't think we would have understood them even if we
were straight."
I won't list the tiny nooks and crannies that he used to hide his stash,
but this does illustrate how difficult to stop someone from taking drugs
across a border, even if the country has a positively rabid anti-drug
policy.