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Drugs and the Internet have gone hand in hand for me for a long time.

And the Internet has changed, and drugs have changed, and there's been much fertile cross-pollination.

But there's a lot of interesting and amusing stuff from a long time ago (in Internet years anyway) archived in various parts of the Internet. And sound some of the information is even accurate...but fair warning, of course, as far as harm reduction goes, there is a lot of wrong information and bad advice out there, which is part of the amusing part.

But there were really some classics. Gizmo's Adventures of Smacks Past, the
alt.drugs.hard
FAQ & archive, paranoia, that DXM forum where you had to post an essay to join, rfgdxm and other cough syrup drinkers having public online breakdowns, random edgy teenagers, the occasional knowledgeable chem/pharm type guy who you have to wonder where he wound up in the scene.

To get the ball rolling here's a historically significant post from 12 years ago or so (it seems so much longer!) on USENET:

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From: William E White
Group: alt.drugs
Date: 3/13/1993

Okay, for anyone who wants to play around with dextromethorphan, this
might be of use to you. [B]Maybe an FAQ is needed?[/B]

First, the biochemical side of things.

Dextromethorphan acts as a cough suppressant via its agonist (activating)
activity at mu-opioid receptors.  Unlike codeine, it does not seem to
activate other opioid receptors, except for the sigma receptor (see below).

As far as its "other" effects, DXM is in the same class as ketamine, PCP,
MK-801, and several other NMDA open channel blockers / sigma opioid ligands.

The sigma opioid receptor's function is unknown but it may be implicated
in schizophrenia.  Sigma opioid agonists produce both the positive and the
negative symptoms of schizophrenia, unlike dopaminergics which produce only
the positive symptoms.

The NMDA receptor is a fast ion-channel receptor which is normally activated
by the excitory amino acids and possibly potentiated by glycine.  There is
a second NMDA receptor subtype in the cerebellum (this may account for DXM's
perceived effect on motion).  NMDA receptors probably exist in several
different subtypes.  DXM, ketamine, PCP, and other similar chemicals act as
"open channel blockers."  Upon the opening of the NMDA channel, the chemicals
enter the channel and block ion transfer.  DXM is a non-competitive blocker.

In addition to this, there is a second "PCP2" binding site (the PCP1 site
is the NMDA open channel block site).  This may be a biogenic amine reuptake
complex.  If so, then these class of chemicals may act as reuptake inhibitors.
The role of the PCP2 site is poorly understood.

I don't know offhand the binding of DXM to sigma, PCP1, and PCP2 in comparison
to ketamine, MK-801, and PCP.
All of these drugs are being studied for their effects in preventing damage
to the brain during siezure.

In terms of effects on humans, described effects include dissociative 
anaesthesia, mild hallucinations, enhanced response to music (including
highly pleasurable responses), and disturbances in motion.  Nausea can
occur.  DXM has some stimulant effects.

In terms of sources, DXM is available over-the-counter in many countries
in tablet form.  Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough (not Robitussin DM)
contains DXM with nothing else (except a little alcohol).  Robitussin DM
also contains an expectorant which should not be taken in high doses.
Dose of Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough is two to five full "shots"
using the shot glass that comes with the bottle.  

The usual warnings apply.  Additionally, prolonged use of DXM can and has
led to psychosis similar to PCP-induced psychosis.  Individual differences
in NMDA receptors may be at work here, but you're still potentially at
risk.  I personally wouldn't mix DXM with anything.

yes, this is THE Bill White of DXM FAQ fame asking whether a FAQ might be needed

Just for fun ... the phrase "hurdy gurdy football" still jumps into my mind and cracks me up after all these years:

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As promised, here's a true story about Swedish Customs. As you know, in 
Sweden they take their drugs seriously. Beer is so expensive you need a 
mortgage to get drunk, and Narco Cops grab suspicious people off the 
streets and subject their bodily fluids to tests to determine if they 
are criminals or not. Sweden has a particularly high suicide rate. 

Eric was going to a Swedish Juggling Convention. His VW Campervan was 
full of beanbags, clubs, rings, jugglers ... the usual juggling 
paraphenalia. He also had some grass, some hash, a few trips, and a 
little cocaine. Eric didn't know that the Swedes are fanatical about 
drugs, did he? He also didn't know there was a British football team 
playing in the country, and because the border guards thought his mob 
were British football fans he'd get thoroughly searched. 

His description of the search always cracks me up. The guards moved his 
van into a little barn off to one side, and started stripping everything 
out. "They kept saying 'Hurdy Gurdy football?' When they understood what 
all the juggling kit was for they started saying 'Hurdy Gurdy Circus?' 
a lot instead. They didn't find the stash, though. We were all tripping 
at the time but I don't think we would have understood them even if we 
were straight." 

I won't list the tiny nooks and crannies that he used to hide his stash, 
but this does illustrate how difficult to stop someone from taking drugs 
across a border, even if the country has a positively rabid anti-drug 
policy.
 
Geek humor

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Article 76 of alt.drugs:
Subject: LSD 4.3
Summary: Better living thru Unix
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 1 Feb 88 16:48:13 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Gary L. Dryfoos)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

LSD(1)              UNIX Programmer's Manual               LSD(1)



NAME
     lsd - turn off your mind, relax, and float downstream

SYNOPSIS
     lsd [ -dsS ] brandname user ...

DESCRIPTION
     Disturbs the given users according to dosage, set, and setting.
     If more than one user is specified, each will be affected by the
     others, according to the arguments they give to lsd on their
     own terminals or machines.  It is recommended that one of the users
     in a group specify a dose of 0, and that at least one other user be
     experienced in using lsd.

     Brandname is usually a blotter pattern, but may be used to specify
     a non-blotter form, such as "windowpane" or "pyramid."

     There are a number of options, each of which can have a strange and
     not completely predictable effect on the users:


     -d   Dosage.  A dosage of 1 to 3 is recommended for first time
          users, although strength varies with brandname and storage
          conditions.

     -s   Set.  Recommended values are "calm," "happy," and "groovy."
          Sets like "angry," "frustrated," and "bummed" may cause file
          system damage, and should be avoided.  For these sets, other
          utilities are available (see "valium").

     -S   Setting.  Recommended are "familiar," "interesting," and
          "comfortable."  Hostile and challenging settings are reserved
          for experienced users.

FILES
     /etc/trips is a log of system-wide use of lsd since booting.

BUGS
     When invoked with incorrect arguments, lsd will print out a random,
     Unixy-sounding error message and remove this man page.  This policy
     prevents misuse by undergraduates and fundamentalist Christians.

     User state should return to normal in twelve hours or less after
     invoking lsd.  With extreme parameters, however, this cannot always
     be guaranteed.

     The output device is assumed to be 80 columns wide.

Edgy teenage occult shit

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HOODOO ROBITUSSIN RITUAL
By the Rite of the Sacred Robo
Rasta Man, 1998.

This is important to follow directions in precise order. If just one
item is substituted the results can not be anticipated and may be
dangerous. This is old time magick. Please do not use lightly. If you
are of light heart please read no further. This is a warning of the
highest degree. The Robo Demons may be unleashed, and it is very
important not to provoke them.
   Like all pure good, there must be a polarized bad. And there is
true evil - a document - that is the exact negative of this one. It is
of pure black magick and is entwined in evil deception - do not use.
This is even worse than altering this ritual.

Building the DXM Altar

First off, you need DXM Altar. It should be constructed of stone, for
stone conveys deep messages in crystalline structures. An old stone is
best - do not use synthetic brick or concrete stone. If you can secure
a stone from an old house's base this will be indeed useful. 
   Lay on the stone a sacred cloth. It is recommended to use lavender
or deep purple, with gilt edges. Under no circumstances use dark or
black cloth. Upon this you will put a glass, made of crystal. This
will be your tool to journey and make contact with the Gods. Use a
clean glass, unscathed, and pour the contents of one bottle of
Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough (US brand) into it. You must not
spill any, or leave any at the bottom of the bottle.
   You have now constructed a basic DXM Altar. It is time for the
ceremony to begin.

Pre-Ordainment

You must bathe yourself and remove all impurities. After the bathing,
put on a white robe and kneel before the altar. You must first bless
the altar with the following:

I bless thee
In the name of Robo Tussin
Open up my Mind
So that I shall find
A great Atonenement
The Sublime
An Island in Time
To vanquish my fears
And open my Third Eye
So mote it be.

At this time drink the sweet nectar of the Robo Gods. Drink it whole,
drink it pure. Savor the taste. The thickness will coat your entire
throat. Let it settle all the way to bottom and stay kneeling. Be at
rest with yourself. Let the great syrup run its course into abyss of
the belly. Now it is time to create your doll.

The Hoodoo Robo Tussin Doll

Take the bottle from which you poured the heavenly nectar and
penetrate the sides, near the top. Use steel to do this. Again,
penetrate bottom in two places, about a centimeter in diameter. Take
straw and insert into arm holes and leg holes. Now, and surely last,
take straw and insert down mouth of bottle. This represents
penetrating the psyche. Take time and patience and heed discipline in
your construction. Once finished, move the crystal glass to the back
of altar - put your Hoodoo doll centerpiece on cloth, and kneel down
three times, repeating the following:

Come forth unto me
Bring me your wisdom
Bless me in your way
O Great Wise One
Wash away the day
And bring forth Night
Entomb me in Sweet Delight
So that I may stay
To reap the benefits of Sight!

Open my Mind
Open my Eye
Let me fly
Unto hither worlds delight
Show me the light
Of your ways
Show me the might
Of your wonder
For, within my thoughts asunder
I allow you to guide me
Guide me, Great One
So mote it be
So mote it be.

Stay in position with your palms pressed squarely against the floor,
but create a triangle with your fingers, and rest your Third Eye
region in this triangle. Contemplate. Meditate. Wait.

Enlightenment

Stay in this position until you feel the warmth of His Majesty upon
you. You shall feel the magick in your blood arouse your senses. It is
a warm tingling feeling. Do not tense. Let it flow through you. Be One
with your self. 
   And now, when the sensation becomes too great to bare, lay back on
floor or a padded surface such as a bed, with eyes closed, and
concentrate on the blackness beyind your eyelids, and the Third Eye
region.

Great things will be revealed to you.

And you will go on great journeys.

Blessed be.
 
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Arguably, the beginning of the end ...
or, the end of the beginning ...

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The Official Research Chemical  Mailing List

This list is an attempt to bring a comprehensive, up-to-date listing
of all research chemical companies that do not require DEA licensing
from their consumers. Because of the publicity research chemicals have
gained recently, it is no longer safe to publish the names of these
companies in public forums like alt.drugs.psychedelics. There are also
new companies springing up all the time. Some of these will
undoubtedly be fraudulent. That is why we are promoting a private
dialogue between list members for the discussion of these companies,
the grade of chemicals they sell, and their prices. The goal of this
list is the following:

- Expose fraudulent companies. Fraudulent companies will have their
addresses and names exposed in public forums so consumers will be able
to spot them for what they are. This will be the only exception for
publicly posting a company's name, and must be confirmed by
independent sources.

- Determine the grade of chemicals being sold. Some grades are more
potent than others, and are of better quality.

- Bring new companies into the spotlight.

- Compare pricing of chemicals and available stock. Some companies
have higher prices than others; some companies have very limited
stocks.

- Offer a Rating System which will cover customer service, pricing,
and the quality of products being sold. Anyone can rate a company over
this criteria.


What this List does Not Include

This list is not to compare or rate individual chemicals. This list is
also not designed to share trip reports. If anyone shares their
experiences or in any way incriminates themselves by discussing the
use of these chemicals for recreational purposes, they will be removed
permanently. This is simply a "smart consumer" list and a private
forum to compare companies, prices, and quality of chemicals.

What Chemicals and Companies are Covered?

Any company that sells research chemicals, ranging from
dextromethorphan to dimethyltryptamine, will be covered. This list
does not endorse any companies selling illegal research chemicals and
anyone discussing illegal activity or recreational use of these
chemicals will be permanently removed from the list.

To Subscribe to the List

To subscribe to the Research Chemical Mailing List (RCML), you must
email [b]REDACTED[/b] (this is only a temporary email) with
"subscribe RCML" in the subject line. If you simply put "subscribe,"
you will be added to the DXM Zine Mailing List and not to the RCML. If
you wish to subscribe to both, send separate emails. By subscribing
you agree you are not a law enforcement officer.

Once you subscribe, you will receive instructions on how to make the
most out of your membership. We promote open discussion. The RCML will
not work unless people openly participate with their comments and rate
the companies being discussed.

Have fun, be smart, and play it safe.
 
Actually potentially useful HR if it checks out
a kind of reverse CWE for DXM

LOL @ the fact that he copyrighted it

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DXM Extraction from Coricidin Cough & Cold
******************************************

Copyright (C) 2000 Delysid Dreamer

BACKGROUND: Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide (hereafter refered to as
DXM HBr) is a common over-the-counter antitussive (cough supressant)
which replaced codeine in the early 1960's because of concerns over
abuse of cough syrups by down and out junkies. However, DXM HBr was
later discovered to have recreational effects, albeit ones not as
universally enjoyable as codeine and other opiates. It is a member
of the drug class dissassociative anaesthetics, and has psychedelic
effects similar to Ketamine ("Special K") or Phenylcyclidine (PCP).
The most common venue for recreational DXM abuse is the drinking of
cough syrup, which many people find extremely unpleasant. Until
recently, Drixoral CoughCaps, which contained nothing but DXM HBr
(30mg) per tablet, were widely availible and the best source of
recreational DXM around. They were taken off the market, allegedly
because of poor sales, but probably because of abuse. A new product,
Coricidin Cough & Cold, appeared on the market. Coricidin Cough &
Cold (CC&C) contains, in each tablet, 30mg DXM HBr and 4mg of the
antihistamine chloropheniramine maleate (CPM). Coricidin Cough &
Cold tablets became popular recreationally, as they are much
easier to take than cough syrup. However, overdosage of CPM (on
the order of anywhere from 12-300mgs) can cause severe anticholigenic
side effects in susceptable persons, and there *HAVE* been confirmed
deaths due to it's use. CPM is highly contraindicated in such large
doses, and even though most individuals can handle a medium dose of
it, individual susceptibility varies widely, and even from use to
use by one person, the user is rolling the metaphorical dice every
time it is used.

OBJECTIVE: To, given a supply of Coricidin Cough & Cold (30mg DXM
HBr, 4mg CPM), yield a portion of usable DXM HBr reasonably equal
to the amount in the pills, discarding all or effectively all CPM.

- MATERIALS -
   Cold water
   Coricidin Cough & Cold pills
   Stirring instrument
   Crushing instrument (a heavy book or board works fine, if you
    have a sturdy plate to collect the powder in)
   Fine-grained cloth for extraction (test it out with flour)
   Petroleum Ether (optional -- for creating a more refined
    product)
   Gelcaps (optional -- for consuming product in a way that
    won't make your stomach turn)

- PROCEDURE -

 (1) Obtain a sizable quantity of Coricidin Cough & Cold pills.
     Note that some 1-10% of the DXM HBr in question will be lost
     in the process of the extraction of the CPM, (varying with
     the amount of water and the skill of the operator), so
     adjust your amounts accordingly. For 1050mg DXM (a mid-3rd
     plateau DXM dosage -- if this menas nothing to you, read
     William White's excellent DXM FAQ[1] -- for a 70kg person
     [i.e. your humble author]), 35 Coricidin pills would be
     needed (yielding an extreme overdose of 140mg CPM). 10% of
     1050 is 105, so use (rounding down) an additional 3 pills,
     yielding an extraction ranging from 945mg to 1039mg DXM.
     This is a high dosage, and not appropriate for beginners.
     Please consult the FAQ for an appropriate dosing for your
     weight and experience, and use a similar procedure to
     calculate the amount of Coricidn you need.
 
 (2) Place the pills flat (i.e. not on top of one another) on
     a wide, sturdy plate (the large rectangular ones you get
     at a cafeteria are perfect) and use a board, book, other
     plate, or some other heavy instrument to crush them into
     a very fine powder. Make sure that there are NO large
     particles of pill left, only very fine powder.

 (3) Collect all the powder, and place it at the bottom of a
     flask or (for the equipment-impaired) a glass. Pour in
     enough cold water to cover over the pwoder several times
     over -- the more water, the more perfect of a CPM
     extraction you get, but also you will loose more DXM
     in the process.

 (4) Stir the water slowly until you get bored (a blender on
     a *VERY* slow setting might work, and a blender doesn't
     get bored), and let sit for a few hours.

 (5) Discard the water. This is not easy, as the powder will
     have the annoying tendancy to go with the water, and
     is far too small to be strained off. Evaporation will
     *NOT* work, as the CPM will be released back into the
     powder mix. You need a very fine grain of cloth to do
     this (you can test it first with flour ... see if the
     flour passes through when you pour water over it ...
     most garment cloth is okay).

 (6) The remaining powder should be DXM HBr, dyes, bindings,
     and other shit. Removing dyes and bindings can be easily
     done with petroleum ether, but for most purposes it
     isn't really important. Fill gel caps and swallow or
     take in a different method. Read the FAQ, have a safe
     trip.

- PRECAUTIONS -

 (1) Bad thins happen if the CPM doesn't get extracted. Make
     bloody sure it does.

 (2) Use a trip sitter at all times.

 (3) Do not operate heavy machinery, drive, or do anything
     dangerous.

 (4) Obey all other percautions in the DXM FAQ.

 (5) This procedure is *UNTESTED*, and is sound as far
     as chemical theory goes, but neither the author nor
     to his knowledge anyone else has ingested the
     product. DON'T be a guinea pig unless you understand
     the risks.

- CHEMCIAL BACKGROUND -
 
 Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide is around 1.5% soluble
 in water. Chloropheniramine Maleate is very soluble
 in water. Most dyes and binders are soluble in ether.
 DXM ain't. 'Nuff said.

- RESOURCES -

 [1] The DXM FAQ: http://www.frognet.net/ - READ this thing
     in it's entirety before trying *ANYTHING* remotely
     related to DXM.


-- 
Regards, Delysid Dreamer <[email protected]>
 
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                              /   3       never-used ones, have at least
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        || ||   ||      2  2  \           lockers. As far as anyone can tell,
        \\ //\ /                CH        the locker factory puts them
              N                   3       there.'' --Dave Barry
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(FIG 1) dimethyltryptamine || ``Only one cure for glaucoma!'' -- Peter Tosh
 
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