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Alcohol Possible alcohol withdrawal?

oxyaddict05

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For those who don't wish to read the whole thread, here is the short version of my question: Is it possible to experience "mild" alcohol physical withdrawal symptoms after drinking 18-21 beers a week (spread out pretty evenly) over the course of 5 weeks?




As a former heroin and cocaine addict, and as a current psych/neuroscience major, I know a thing or two about those substances and their associated addictions. What I know almost nothing about (aside from the academic) is alcohol. I started drinking and smoking weed again about 2.5 years ago, when I felt I had enough sobriety to go back to being "normal" (with the obvious exception of 100% avoiding all other drugs - especially opiates).

This was my senior year, so I drank a lot more than usual this last month. I would say I averaged 2-4 beers about 4-5 nights a week for the last 5 weeks. For the good part of the year before this, I drank maybe one beer every 2 months, if not less. I stuck only to beer and malt liquor, and probably averaged 18-21 drinks a week, but on a consistent and steady rate for 5 weeks.

This last week, I have gotten 4 panic attacks. I used to get them in high school, which was about 8 years ago, but I haven't really had any since then. The nights I did get them this last week were also nights that I did not do any drinking. On the days when I did get the attacks, I had a general and more mild feeling of hypertension, chest tightness, and other physical anxiety symptoms which lasted a good part of the day (which I know can also be residual effects of a panic attack).

So naturally, I am concerned that the alcohol played a role (specifically mild physical withdrawal). The panic attacks were all very physical in nature (palpitations, hypertension, chest pain/tightness, weakness, dizziness, tingling extremities, ect.) As such, the anxiety during these attacks was mostly based on the fear that it was heart related.

This is also a transition period in my life which is quite stressful. However, I consider myself to be pretty good at dealing with stress, so I am reluctant to blame the attacks and general physical-symptoms of anxiety on that alone.

I would really appreciate to hear what you all think. Especially those who have had first hand experience with alcohol withdrawal, (or even better, mild- withdrawal + unrelated general anxiety that doesn't typically cause panic attacks).

The last thing I want is another addiction, so I am going to stop all alcohol consumption until I can get a better idea of what is going on. Doctors, studies, and e-how are great and all, but there is nothing like first hand experience, so I came here first :)
 
I used to drink like a fish, every other day, in much greater quantity than that. I was also a wreck with anxiety, and imagined heart-related issues(panic attacks and holiday heart). I was drinking partly because of anxiety, I think, but all the alcohol made it much worse. I'm not sure if these symptoms are proper alcohol withdrawal or not, but there is something to it.
 
I guess it's possible, but from what I've seen and in my own expierence, it usually takes a lot of alcohol consumed everyday for a very long time to actually cause psychical dependency. I asked many alcoholics in detoxes over the years about this and they all said they didn't start getting withdrawal symptoms until their drinking became really really heavy.

At one point where I was off H, I was drinking over a pint of bourbon every night for about a year, and I never got withdrawal symptoms. I just stopped.
 
^ thanks Morphling and Mr.Scagnattie.

Yes that is what I had heard as well, so I was also reluctant to blame it on alcohol. I think most likely I was under a lot of stress, which was aggravated by very minor rebound effects from the drinking. I don't think what I drank would be enough to cause all that on its own. But combined with the stress + lack of sleep + possibly my ADD meds (Nuvigil)....... it might have been enough to push me into panic attack territory.

Regardless, I always considered heroin withdrawal to be so terrible. But feeling that fear of possible alcohol withdrawal was very strange.... the idea that a withdrawal can be fatal is so much worse than all the discomfort from heroin.

P.S. I can't even imagine serious DT's 8o
 
I wouldn't think so but everyone's bodies are different.
Perhaps you are just having a shitty week, maybe having trouble sleeping after being used to the buzz everyday and it might might be blaming it on withdrawal, but it might not be true physical withdrawal.
Also all panic attacks can take physical manifestation, it's your bodies physical reaction to a psychological attack.
When I have panic attacks on ketamine and weed its not a withdrawal but it still takes a very physical manifestation, with much of the symptoms you listed.
I would say this is more a psychological withdrawal
 
^ thanks Morphling and Mr.Scagnattie.

Yes that is what I had heard as well, so I was also reluctant to blame it on alcohol. I think most likely I was under a lot of stress, which was aggravated by very minor rebound effects from the drinking. I don't think what I drank would be enough to cause all that on its own. But combined with the stress + lack of sleep + possibly my ADD meds (Nuvigil)....... it might have been enough to push me into panic attack territory.

Regardless, I always considered heroin withdrawal to be so terrible. But feeling that fear of possible alcohol withdrawal was very strange.... the idea that a withdrawal can be fatal is so much worse than all the discomfort from heroin.

P.S. I can't even imagine serious DT's 8o

And seizing out isn't very fun either. I saw some wicked seizures this past time I was in detox and happened to be with a lot of alcoholics.
 
i have been a A. for 15 years.. sober now... and u wouldnt need to ask here if u really had them. Maaaaaaan they are hell.. in the end u drink ONLY to ward of the horribel withdrawls un till u either detox with Valium, Risolid, Or better Phenobarbital. or DIE.... and it will take months to get over and get a life again... all the lies etc etc etc.. and u are ACTUALLY dependend when u have a HANGOVER.. its WORSE than even Crack... drink 1-2 beeers after a hard night and ull feel calm, u heart beat goes down, no cold sweat, no haedach... so its cured in 10 min... the perfect drug
 
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