Positive Psychological And Psychosocial Effects Of Hydrocodone?

[Burnt Offerings]

I always like that phrase, "experimenting with drugs & alcohol"

 

[treezy z]

I am an on and off opiate addict.

They are cool at first, I never thought much of them TBH. They are more enjoyable than benzos or alcohol by far to relax. GHB is the best downer but I haven't seen enough of it in years to get a habit.

I'm a weed smoker first and foremost nothing gets me high unless I smoke. Altered state yes, enjoyable no.

Anyways they are enjoyable for a minute but when the addiction catches me I basically turn insane with mood swings. I've never found the physical withdrawals to be the worst part it's how unstable I get mentally. The physical shit subsides the quickest, if you can swing a few days off work or whatever it can be dealt with.

Since you have never tried this drug my advice is save your opiate tolerance for when you need it, like a broken arm. the pills you get will get you nice and high off one or two and take your mind off the pain a bit.

 

[Eisbaer]

And Benzos are similar. just because you can take them for 2 weeks everyday and stop no problemo doesn't mean shit. And they are worse than opiates, their withdrawal can kill you and the addiction to them can cripple someone mentally for a long time after acute withdrawal is over. It takes TIME though. And the sense of security you have about your use is a recipe for ending up dependent. No one plans on getting more, no one plans on doing it again. Many people do. It's a "big scary" drug in media for a reason. You wont realize its taking control until you're too far to stop.

Experimental purposes are good and all, but I feel like thats more of a justification for use than a real experiment. are you testing a hypothesis? do you have a null hypothesis? do you have a way to quantify the observations you make in such a way that you could preform statistical analysis on your findings? (so its not just an anecdotal report). Are you recording all of your experimental procedures, not just the experience? Do you have a clear method prepared so others could repeat your experiment to see if they get similar results? repeatable results are a pretty big deal with experiments. Have you done research to make sure the experiments you're trying haven't already been done and had clear results published by others? Its fun to repeat experiments to see if they work, but just going at it and doing experiments without checking to see if anyone else has already done the same thing and gotten good results to answer those questions isn't really contributing or anything, but its a good excuse to make your drug use sound important and like it's totally not a problem. Because I can almost guarantee the things you're trying to find in your experiments have already been done, peer reviewed, published, and available for review. but whats the fun in that.

I found some in an old drawer, the pills are 3 years expired too. I didn't even pay for them. And honestly, they're great but after a while, the effects start to get monotonous. I'd rather experiment with a new drug rather than use the same one, or completely stop for a while.

I logged the doses, and the days each dose was taken and such. I doubt there were experiments where specifically hydrocodone was taken with alcohol.

And the feeling I get is not a pure hydrocodone high, since I combine it with alcohol. The effect is very unique, and taking just alcohol or hydrocodone alone feels one dimensional. The effect is more impressive, and magical. Music sounded absolutely fantastic, and it's easy to get lost in the music or in a thought. Noise and music seemed to pierce my brain like a bolt of lightning. It is a social combination, it's far easier to interact with people and feels good doing it. My mind doesn't feel cluttered, and it feels like I'm open to more new things and ideas. It seems like I came up with more intelligent and better ideas than I would have without this combination. There is also that warm feeling which alcohol provides, which you simply won't get from hydrocodone alone. At times, there is a numbing feeling on my face or hands, which makes it perfect for splashing yourself with some cold water or taking a cold shower or bath. It completely eliminates inhibition and anxiety. It's easy to lose track of time, a minute can feel like an hour. If I close my eyes, and look straight down, it seems like my mind is lost in some eternal black hole. Sometimes, different parts of my body feel itchy, but that is normal for opioids. Once the flight's over, I feel great, like I'm on a vacation for the rest of the day. Spiritually, I feel cleansed, as if I came out a much better and more intelligent person. It felt more like a journey, in which I more spiritually found myself than "just got high." I feel closer to God, and that everything will be alright in my life, and also the world. I see the world in a brighter light now, and that everything will be okay in the hands of God. It felt like my soul traveled through a long forgotten ancient world, on a warm, sunny summer day, and his risen out of the darkness into the light. I now feel more alive, real, and like the person I want to be.

Wearing clothes, or lying down, and moving around feels abnormally fantastic too. If you have a blanket on you, it will feel absolutely great. This is the only similarity I found to benzos. I never heard of anyone else experiencing this. I'd also like to mention that after taking benzos, I never felt depressed again, where as before benzos I felt more anxiety and was depressed. The "benzo" I took was etizolam, and it cured my depression. I sometimes took etizolam with propylhexedrine.

 

[Lobsterbutch]

Specifically hydrocodone taken with alcohol maybe not, but then again, I haven't looked for one, and neither have you. Hydrocodone is a semi synthetic opioid, it affects the mu opiate receptors, and causes effects more or less like other opiates/opioids. There are certainly differences in effect between all of them, some say oxycodone is "speedy" compared to other opiates, many say fentanyl lacks euphoria other opioids have, they're a little different, but generally speaking, they're going to produce the same spectrum of effects. It's not like comparing psilocybin to LSD, its more like comparing different weed strains. Maybe that isn't the best analogy, but i hope it makes sense. Hydrocodone isn't going to produce wildly different effects than other opiates, hydrocodones effects have been completely explored, and save for the research chemical opioids, so have all the other opiate/opioids. They're more or less completely understood, save for some R.C's or some of the stranger alkaloids in opium that have questionable and unstudied effects.

You're combining hydrocodone with alcohol. Its a pretty old combo. Opiate(x) + Booze = 3X the fun! Specifically mixing hydrocodone and alcohol is going to be pretty predictable, and its going to be pretty damn similar to mixing any other opiate with alcohol.

Alcohol produces improved mood, loss of inhibition, dopamine release, CNS depression, muscle relaxion, dulling of senses and physical pain, and a percieved "warmth" (which is blood vessel dialation) and more effects.

Opiates produce euphoria, improved mood, CNS depression, Loss of inhibition, muscle relaxion, dulling of senses and physical pain, feeling of contentment, feelings of "warmth, a pleasant drowsyness, and wayyyyy more.

BOTH alcohol and opiates are effective antidepressants, but only while they're used. The combination compounds the effects, as they share a lot of effects but they achieve those effects through very different pathways.

I Guarantee you could find a study (or many) done on the effects of opiates and alcohol being combined. You'll also find a lot of info that its actually pretty damn dangerous to mix opiates and alcohol. They're both CNS depressants, it compounds the risks of either one by itself, its all over bluelight, opiates + booze = dangerous. Opiates + benzos = dangerous. A shit ton of opiate O.D's happen because of mixing it with other CNS depressants, especially benzos.

Also, those hydrocodone tabs have a strong dose of acetaminophen, which really works your liver. Alcohol also really works your liver. Combining both at the same time REALLY REALLY works your liver, especially when taking more than just one pill. Both are hepatoxic compounds

Mixing alcohol with opiates isn't new, especially hydrocodone, it was the first pill i took, and the first opiate i mixed with alcohol. You should be able to find studies on alcohol and opiate combos pretty easily.

And the experimenting.......none of that's quantifiable, that's all anecdotal evidence, experiences.....which are useful, but you'll have no problems finding oodles of those online, here, on erowid, everywhere. And its not doing anything to further anyones understanding of hydrocodone or its combination with alcohol, any of their interactions or what they do in the body. To do an experiment you have to have a question, why you're doing it. whats your question? and it should be better than "what does hydrocodone do with alcohol?'

What it is is use justification. What you describe, music being awesome and blankets super comfy.......I would expect you to feel that way combining any opiate. Its not new and profound what you experienced, and you'd know that if you did some digging. I've heard your exact description of your experience from others doing very similar things. I'm just saying, if you want to keep experimenting and doing "research" you're going to need to take a much more organized, patient, and careful attitude. I was exactly you, and i did fine for awhile, but my tendency to do stuff without very thorough research and risk assessment fucked me and now I'm just an addict (once you are one you're one for life). Man, I had some big time scares and some very very shitty withdrawals and awful family episodes. And I know this all sound very patronizing and "smarter-than-you-look-at-me" but I was exactly you and it took a looooooong time of me being up my own ass before i realized I was just fucking dumb and reckless. So take this with a grain of salt and do your own research because im not smart but I am trying to warn you of the stuff that kicked me in the sack.