Thanks for posting this! The 'diversion system' is such a great idea, it's a shame it hasn't yet been tried in North America. What the hell are we waiting for?
Portugal: Ten Years After Decriminalization
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From what I know Mexico, Portugal, Spain, Berlin, Netherllands, Prague, has not
legalized illegal drugs.
They just respect peoples privacy, goverment will not frisk endusers, nor intrude a private home, a private car. Foreigners not included, visitors do not have same right
to private-sphere.
It is not legalized, only indirectly not strictly punished, like jaywalking, make moonshine for own use et.c.
legalized illegal drugs.
They just respect peoples privacy, goverment will not frisk endusers, nor intrude a private home, a private car. Foreigners not included, visitors do not have same right
to private-sphere.
It is not legalized, only indirectly not strictly punished, like jaywalking, make moonshine for own use et.c.
I can tell you that perhaps the DEA, U.S.A. reads as much as we do, I can devise from this that if a new medicinal supplement comes out that looks to go up against a very criminalized medicinal supplement then perhaps not many or none should speak of it, America is crazy, literally crazy for information, we run the biggest spy game, to 'stunt' the DEA/FDA 'know' but don't 'advertise', then with a wide number of users, but no known sources, this sends the DEA into a wild tailspin. 
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RoboRobot;11337240 said:
Sort of. They have limits on what any person can possess, and violators get forced into treatment. I believe dealing is still officially illegal, but those laws are not zealously enforced (hence Portugal's famous open air drug markets).
I just recited that from memory. Specific data is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
What do you mean by "open air markets"? I'm Portuguese and there's no such thing as that.
Maybe they have stopped that…Here's an article referring to the huge open air drug markets -
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/13/us-portugal-drugs-idUSBRE87C0N120120813
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/13/us-portugal-drugs-idUSBRE87C0N120120813
I imagine there is some sort of huge market for everything after its decriminalized. People are still gonna need there dope.
When will the us ever follow this like they should? Retorical question probably not in my life time.
When will the us ever follow this like they should? Retorical question probably not in my life time.
What bothers me is the way many of the new reformists want to see all drug use as a health problem, as if everyone who uses drugs is sick or has mental health problems. This means that supposedly everyone on bluelight is mentally ill, which is utterly absurd. Furthermore, I doubt they would view the alcohol-drinking demographic as sick, yet that is a psychotropic drug all the same and it is implicated in more sickness and misery than any other drug bar tobacco. And what about everyone who drinks coffee? Are they sick?
I am not sick just because I choose to consume mind-altering compounds sometimes, and I resent the implication by the new wave of drug reformists that I am. Don't get me wrong, I am all for drug policy reform (in my opinion it should be full legalization and regulation/education) and to end the horrible war on drugs which has cost so many lives in Mexico, but it should not be replaced with an equally draconian model whereby users are no longer carted off to jail but carted off to a fucking mental asylum instead.
The problem with "decriminalization" is that it's not really decriminalizing drugs. It's just diverting resources away from punishing small-time users to punishing big-time sellers. Thus the War On Drugs seems to be over as it pertains to the average user on the street, but it still rages on in places like Mexico, where people are still getting murdered every day. This is no good at all. Only full legalization can fix this.
I am not sick just because I choose to consume mind-altering compounds sometimes, and I resent the implication by the new wave of drug reformists that I am. Don't get me wrong, I am all for drug policy reform (in my opinion it should be full legalization and regulation/education) and to end the horrible war on drugs which has cost so many lives in Mexico, but it should not be replaced with an equally draconian model whereby users are no longer carted off to jail but carted off to a fucking mental asylum instead.
The problem with "decriminalization" is that it's not really decriminalizing drugs. It's just diverting resources away from punishing small-time users to punishing big-time sellers. Thus the War On Drugs seems to be over as it pertains to the average user on the street, but it still rages on in places like Mexico, where people are still getting murdered every day. This is no good at all. Only full legalization can fix this.