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Poppy SEED Tea my experience (5+years worth)

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Twisted_Arm

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Ok, lately I've seen a lot of PST posts, so here's my 1.25$.
I am 29, been a drug abuser since i was young. My opiate addiction started with pills lead very quickly to IV heroin. my tolerance to opiates is HIGH. can smash 40mg of hydro n not feel a thing.

Now PST, works. i live in the midwest and am able to source good seeds from the large Chain stores. now it used to be 2 years ago the generic 70g bags of the stores brand of seeds worked well everytime. 700g is a good dose. as of the past 6 mos they have been spotty on potency. say they stock 20 bags half could b the very dark blue and black, and have could b the lighter washed ones.

"How do i know when they are worth trying?" Well what you want are dark blue and almost black, they will have a strong earthy smell, the ones you don't want are almost gray, if you see any seeds contained in the bag.that appear to be white or a very light light grey, they are garbage.

"How do you prepare it?" This has been covered numerous times but.here's my procedure.

empty all into old rinsed milk jug, add either lemon juice or i use apple cider vinegar. i use hot water from the tap, fill untill the h2o is about a 1/4 in above all seeds. shake like a mad man for 5-10 mins. get a dish towel, not.wash cloth, remove cap and tightly hold the towel over opening. turn upside down over large glass and drain/squeeze until you feel you.got all the liquid you can. drink it.

"How long it take to kick in, last, peak?" Within 20 minutes you should feel heavy.shoulderz warming of the face and a mild euphoria. I should also add because of the Thebaine you will feel a boost of energy the first couple hours but will taper off. around the 6-8 hr mark peak will hit, lasts 4-6 hours. expect a full blown opiate high, scratching nodding just all over all good feeling. the come down is very.slow and gentle. The whole ride is on avg 24hrs. i have used this to stave off full blown WDs for a full day.

Be careful, at the peak of my IV H use, about a gram a day; i would make a stronger batch, 1000g's. The tea would get me higher then dope at times.

"Is it addictive?" Very much so, i got clean for close to 3 1/2 years. after a bad break up i fell down this slope again. but with losinv my dope plugs i found myself driving to several stores daily to find who was stocked. i rarely purchase the seeds as i kinda have a theft problem also. now i have been cited 3 times.for misdemeanor theft of seeds. and I still continue to follow this road. now i kerp my use to the minimum of every 3 days or longer. also with seeds being.spotty it makes it harder.

"Why hasn't this worked for me?!?" The seeds, you never know potency. as with my current brand one bag is wat i want one is not. i can look and smell and know they are either good or not.

"I hear the withdrawals are bad, is this true?" Yes, after kicking H cold turkey several times PST kick is worse. Think methadone, no lie.

Now i can't stress this enough, THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND ADDICTIVE. the only reason id prefer to slam H over PST is the rush. besides that, ill take a strong PST dose over H anyday.

"Is it worth doing a second wash?" I never do, the first wash is always good enough for me. If you do a 2nd wash do it ASAP as the latex breaks down fast and will turn your 2nd batch a milky.almost putrid taste to it.



i know all this is covered in many threads, but this is MY experience.

also, the reason for the lemon juice is to lower the h2o PH level. what this does is change the morphine into a more complex molecule. think one step closer to Heroin.

as of currently I use H maybe once a week or every other. my tolerance is still high, when i do use dope i can slam as much as my buddy.who is a daily IV user, and i don't.fall out.
Even with my tolerance where it is noe, i made a 700g.batch and am warm and fuzzy as ever.
 
Good info, Twisted_arm.

I've used PST for about the same length of time as you, and I would agree (or say I have the same experience) with nearly everything you wrote. The main difference between the way I make my tea, but that's just a personal thing I think (I use cold water and do two washes). I've also got as much experience with poppy pods and actual opium as I do with PST - and that's in whole other league compared to the seeds.

Anyway, the main points I really agree with you on are;

1. If I get lucky and get a good batch of seeds AND I use enough, the high is as potent as heroin and much longer lasting. Of course, however, there's no rush at all.

2. The withdrawals are the hardest I've experienced from any opiate. I've used and abused many different opiates and opioids (including fentanyl), with the notable exception of methadone, so I can't comment or compare that. The problem with poppy WDs is first the insane length of the physical hell, and then the much longer duration of the post-use depression and unrelenting cravings.

You mentioned how your tolerance is up high. Can relate to that too, and even though I've cut down my PST use drastically I still find my tolerance is annoyingly high. After long-term poppy seed (and much more so, poppy latex - opium) use, tolerance seems to stay high and make other things feel disappointingly weak and short acting. The last time I bought heroin, half a gram was gone in two days. I WAS pacing myself and trying hard not to use it all on the day I got it, so I never really got stoned the way I hoped, and then the next day it was all gone anyway. Extremely disappointing. The H was really quite good quality and it was a pleasure to use, but everytime I did use some I just felt like it wasn't enough.

Oxy is even worse. It may as well be street-bought cocaine for the price of the stuff, and lasts about as long too for me now hahaha! That makes me sad. I remember how good oxy was the first times I used it, and how it put a wonderful sheen on an entire day... instead of a couple of hours.
 
You would think the white seeds are better if they are coated in opium? That's why I was told...but haven't done PST in a long time.
 
I tried white seeds a couple of years ago.
IME; inactive (or close to it).

Just my experience - I've heard people say they work.
 
Yeah, they have always been far more expensive in my part of the world.
From memory, it was akin to...doing a wash with sesame seeds.
Not bitter. Not active.
I hear other people say they've got something from it, but I didn't; so I didn't persist in experimenting.
 
Hi, I have a question about the colour of the tea.. If it's light yellow and bitter, do ya think it would work..
 
When I said white, i mean the blue ones that have a white tint over them. Usually the ethnic stores have them in bulk and they are a mixture of dark blue/black seeds and the same only covered with white that gets washed off when you do the wash. I always thought those were the good ones in the bunch because the opium is white when fresh from the pod. They always smell very earthy and you can see little crumbs of pod here and there. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is what I was referring to...not actually white seeds.

I remember the last time I did it I couldn't even sleep and my eyes stayed pinned for what seemed like over 24 hours. I just figured that batch had a lot of thebaine, but pupils stayed pinned as hell for at least 24 hours if I remember correctly.
 
^ hmmm, yeah we're talking about different things.
I don't do pst any more, but I used to
a) think you couldn't reliably judge seeds' potency by sight
-but...
b) the darker, stickier seeds seemed to be the less "washed" and more likely to be the goods.
Obviously the plants they originated from give another rarely acknowledged variable....
But I think it is worth pointing out that opium latex dries to a dark brown/red/black colour.
It is only white when first harvested, but will dry to a dark tone.
Just an observation that may help you on your way.

Respect the seeds, (and pods); they're a motherfucker to detox from, due to their full spectrum of opiate alkaloids and therefore long half-life.
 
PST has been a life saver for me over the past year. Can't say enough.good things.

While being purposely vague; I have had no problems with withdrawal. Only RLS.

Lopramide, tonic water, valerian root., and tylelnol PM, completely, neutralized withdrawals anytime I've stopped from daily use. I kicked a perscription benzo habit during a lot of antagonization, so.take this amswer with a grain of salt.

: )
 
I have read that the seeds you buy from the supermarkets, in 100 g packets are no good.. But I don't know.. I think it's possible to get good seeds at the local supermarket.. Well maybe not good seeds, but 'ok' seeds.. I bought mine from a very small 'local' asian grocery shop.. They were in 100 g packets, and I bought 5.. So that's 500 I used, and it didn't turn out too bad.. I have tolerance because I'm on 37 of methadone, and I have been for 3 years, but I still felt a slight buzz from 500 g.. And it lasted into the next day.. So if I wasn't on methadone, and only used opioids once a week,like I used to, then I recken I would of got high..
I am in Australia though..
 
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'Tis not to be taken lightly, mate.
The slow onset and long halflife (as opposed to the fast onset and fairly short halflife of most of the common pharmaceutical opiate/opioids) - as well as the legal, easy accessiblility can provide a real false sense of security with pst.
Compared with a lot of opiates, pst can feel weak and subtle; but this is a bit misleading.

I've heard people say it is shit, dirty, "fake dope" and whatever else (it might be rather shit and dirty...) but it is a strong opiate with the potential habituation and every other complication and inconvenience of using any opiates - with a very drawn out withdrawal period.
I really try to encourage people who are opiate naive not to dabble with pst.
Some people have very negative reactions to the stuff; some, for whatever reason, find it does nothing for them; but it's those that enjoy it for what it is that need to be careful.
It's the same with heroin - some people try it, hate it - and forget about it.
With others - the complete opposite.

Weird drugs like pst, can be very insidious if you develop a taste for them.
You don't need a dealer, or connections. This is dangerous in itself, in regard to addiction potential.

There still seems to be a sense of disbelief that something obtained and prepared so simply and legally (unless, like the OP, you steal seeds heh) could be a highly addictive form of opium.

I just hope - for the sake of the people that rely on these seeds to remain functioning human beings (in the short to medium term) that the increased awareness of pst does not attract the attention of the sort of people that use their powers to restrict people altering their consciousness.

I don't recommend people try pst, but I am still glad it is an option for people who need it.
 
Yes the lighter seeds are bunk and almost look like they've been washed. It started off slow here where half the time you could still get the dark blue "good" seeds but now all there is are the washed ones. Seems like they are getting wise to it. It's a pity as it was one of the best, cheapest legal highs still available. I remember buying it for 98 cents a pound and getting stoned for days off a pound. It's addictive as shit though, I still think about it weekly and still to this day check the bulk seed bin.
 
spacejunk said:
^ I'm curious as to what influence you think this has?
There are a few Aussies in this thread...
But anyway - I'm amazed you felt anything off pst whilst on methadone.
That's interesting.
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Cause I thought the seeds were different in Australia.. But yes, I was surprised too, I didn't expect anything from the seeds, but I actually felt something, even though I'm on methadone as well.. The seeds I mentioned above, actually turned out to be a bit stronger than a buzz.. From what I have read, I didn't think good seeds could come in the small packets, only in bulk.. If I had no tolerance I would have been screwed with this tea.. However, it only turned a light yellow, not brown like some say...
 
I'm wondering though, why my tea only turns yellow.. At best, maybe a medium yellow.. Never dark yellow, or brown.. I feel like the seeds are good, cause I can feel it.. A lot of people say it should be brown if it's good.. Well that's what I've read..
 
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