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Opioids Poppy Pods advice----- Hen and chicks, Giganteum

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sanjive

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Good day peoples, I'm new to this forum so go easy on me!

I am going to make some poppy tea and was looking for some advice. I would like to be able to have 2-3 doses and would not need any more for a while.

I can either buy a stash of 30 hen and chick pods(no weight available) or 0.5kg of Giganteums.

I have done a lot of research and it seems the hen and chicks would be my best option as they seem more potent,

The problem I face, is that I don't know where to start with dosage. I know it varies massively from pod to pod, but I see a lot of people saying 2-3 poppy heads is a medium dose and others saying they take 20-30 pods ( assuming each pod was a gram) is a low-mild dose with hens and chicks.

I would not like to waste my time and money (which i am strapped for) and not even get a good dosage or high.

I have taken very high dose codeine every other day until about 4 weeks ago for 2 weeks, is 6 ft 4 and weights 140 pounds But no other opiates have been used. I also currently take Citalopram an SSRI which shouldn't have a negative effect at all.

Would love it for someone to give first hand experience with hen and chicks pods and what dosages they took and what their experience was like


Peace
 
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Welcome to bluelight my friend. First of all we don't use SWIM on this forum. We all know your talking about yourself, and it does not offer you any legal protection what so ever. So your going to need to edit your post and change all your SWIM references to yourself. Other than that I can't help you as I have no experience with PPT. Someone will respond shortly and give you some advice. Welcome to BL!
 
This kind of looks like grey-area to me. We can't help you get high, but if you're already going to get high we can help you do it safely; and prices shouldn't be included.

Just try titrating your dose up slowly.
 
We don't use swim on this website, and price discussion is not allowed, we are not allowed to talk aboute prices
 
See to it that you plant the seeds somwhere no one will go looking. One day when me and my friend arrived to check on them and someone had stolen all the pods. Oh well, at least someone got high.
 
Thanks for the advice guys, have edited post now. Much appreciated.

What would one with opiate experience start from in terms of grams.

I was thinking of just taking one or two pods to start with, or would you recommend more? I need to be efficient in terms of spending money, so i would like to waste as little as possible while titering the dose. For example if i take 2-3 pods and that doesn't have an effect, and then 5-10 and it doesn't, then i would already be half way through my stash with no result and less money.

Is it safe to start with 5-6 pods?

Thanks to all.
 
Pod potency can vary by hundreds of percentage points, meaning one batch could be literally three times as potent as another. My advice is to start with a very small dose first.
 
Hey to continue, i have been informed that the hens and chicks are naturally dried, but chemicals( i assume fertilisers/ pesticides) have been used in the process.


Would they still be safe to consume?


Thanks for the support
 
2-3 grams is a good starting dose for a unknown batch with no tolerance. The most potent pods give pretty strong effects at even this dose but with regular pods you need much more, but you still should be able to feel 2-3 grams unless they are very weak.
 
cook said:
2-3 grams is a good starting dose for a unknown batch with no tolerance. The most potent pods give pretty strong effects at even this dose but with regular pods you need much more, but you still should be able to feel 2-3 grams unless they are very weak.
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Thanks,

I have been informed that 10 pods is about 60g, which sound kindof odd to me, in that case i would need less that one pod, this one is getting tricky
 
Where's the poppy from? I ask because there are only 3 areas in the world that can sustain it and although the morphine content in each seems to be irrelevantly lower numbers wise, one morphine unit is actually a lot.
 
Weight will largely depend on whether or not they have seeds in. Some places (aimed at drug pigs like ourselves) de-seed them, others, aimed at flower arrangers, don't.
 
Obiez said:
Where's the poppy from? I ask because there are only 3 areas in the world that can sustain it and although the morphine content in each seems to be irrelevantly lower numbers wise, one morphine unit is actually a lot.
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That's interesting, they are grown in England under strict supervision. From the pictures I have seen they look extremely healthy, which is always a good sign. They range from cream coloured to dark grey/purple.

Munroe said:
Weight will largely depend on whether or not they have seeds in. Some places (aimed at drug pigs like ourselves) de-seed them, others, aimed at flower arrangers, don't.
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Very true, they most likely will contain seeds, so i will take this into account.

Thanks guys
 
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So you have no way of knowing what part of the world it is from?

I'll rule of thumb it for you. Generally, for a person with no tolerance to it, one to two full poppy heads (full as in with seeds) is a very solid batch, things get tricky with the age and size of the plant, but that's for professionals to discuss. We are here to discuss toxicity. Afghani/turkish poppy has I believe 11 morphine units per gram, that is more then enough to sink you deep. If, however you somehow managed to find Macedonian poppy, it has 16 morphine units per gram. those 5 units are exponential, so in plain terms going from 10 to 11 isn't just one louder, it's actually a much higher dose. Personally, I'd blend 2, brew em, pour half a cup, drink and give it about 45 minutes to see how i am doing. if by that time I am not passing out while walking (which you won't at that dose even if it is your first time) i'll go for a full cup, maybe two if I want to go deep. What you have, and absolutely have to remember though is that you can actually OD. So, please be wise while going about it. Waste one head to test the water before going Conan style into war.
 
Dried, de-seeded, poppy pods contain up to 2 percent morphine by weight. Usually it hangs around 1% though. Still there are other alkaloids that give effects too, but the percentages are good guidelines when dosing. It's basically impossible the pods to contain more than 2% morphine by weight, it's absolute maximum.

Seeds make up about 30-40% of the weight of dried pods.
 
Haha, Don't worry, i'm no babarian! Thanks for the advice, Like i said they are grown in england, but there is no way of knowing where the seeds are from.

I will try 1-2 pods on thursday and report back.

I have seen various preparation methods scattered around the internet, but i am looking for a solid method that works. I understand not to go over 80 degrees C and can add other things to potentiate such as grapefruit juice and Ph lowerer Lemon juice. Personally I have tried GFJ with codeine and it limited the high to a certain extend and did not strengthen it.

Would you be willing to state a reliable source for a method, Maybe your own, if you have one?

Kindly
 
cook said:
Dried, de-seeded, poppy pods contain up to 2 percent morphine by weight. Usually it hangs around 1% though. Still there are other alkaloids that give effects too, but the percentages are good guidelines when dosing. It's basically impossible the pods to contain more than 2% morphine by weight, it's absolute maximum.

Seeds make up about 30-40% of the weight of dried pods.
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This is exactly the problem when talking about dosing for a good brew.
 
Would you also reccomend De-seeding, or leaving them in? I am aware that they still contain a few alkaloids and can also help with the taste ( i am very fond of the nutty tatse of the seeds)

Sorry if I am bombarding you with questions, you guys seem like you know your way around these.
 
sanjive said:
Would you also reccomend De-seeding, or leaving them in? I am aware that they still contain a few alkaloids and can also help with the taste ( i am very fond of the nutty tatse of the seeds)

Sorry if I am bombarding you with questions, you guys seem like you know your way around these.
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De-seeding is recommended, the seeds contain only traces of alkaloids relative to what's in the pods. The poppy seed tea works because the seeds are industrially removed by just crushing the pods, leaving some material on the surface of the seeds that would not otherwise be there. There are no alkaloids in the seeds if removed otherwise.
 
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