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Poor sleep patterns and bleeding gums

robbli777

robbli777

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Has anyone experienced poor sleeping patterns or bleeding gums days or weeks later after taking M0lly? I'm not sure if it's related, as I had a couple of close family bereavements in a short space of time in mid 2023 plus ongoing family problems as a consequence, to this day. As I know, stress and anxiety can play havoc with the immune system, cause grinding teeth, gum issues and stunt the ability to heal.

I do admit, I've had a (mild?) dependency on M0lly taking around 150mg once every 1 to 2 months, since early 2023. I have never done any crazy spontaneous binges though. I'm just exploring opinions as to what maybe the direct cause of my poor sleeping patterns and bleeding gums.
 
I've gone well around a couple years using MDMA at your same frequency but in almost always significantly higher amounts. It was unwise from a toxicity perspective, but I didn't notice gum issues nor sleeping issues. My money would be on the MDMA being unrelated, do you vape or use any form of breath strip that may be causing gum damage? Also, are you possibly wicked low on vitamin C?
 
Esperighanto said:
I've gone well around a couple years using MDMA at your same frequency but in almost always significantly higher amounts. It was unwise from a toxicity perspective, but I didn't notice gum issues nor sleeping issues. My money would be on the MDMA being unrelated, do you vape or use any form of breath strip that may be causing gum damage? Also, are you possibly wicked low on vitamin C?
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No, I don't vape etc.

I wonder if M0lly impacts melatonin?

Lack of vitamin C could be an issue yes, I will up my fruit daily intake.
 
I wanna say that yes MDMA does affect my sleep patterns for a few days. Less restful and harder to actually fall asleep IME. It's honestly my least favorite aspect of taking MDMA. And oddly enough MDA does not seem to have the same impact.
 
Sleep issues can be caused by many different things, but bleeding gums usually indicate gingivitis (gum disease). Gingivitis is much more prevalent in the general population than many people realize. That said, it's true that poor nutrition, irregular oral hygiene, and dry mouth can all contribute to it.
 
bleeding is an interesting one

so something to be aware of before I say anything else is that platelets are responsible for blood clotting, if they don't work right bleeding and vascular repair are impaired

SSRIs are known to increase bleeding risk, and this is causatively related to platelet function

platelets express the SErotonin Reuptake Transporter (SERT) which is what MDMA and SSRIs act on, in part at least. this change in serotonin dynamics can lead to depletion of serotonin from platelets (iirc) which causes impaired clotting

usually removal of the SSRI allows the platelet function to be restored over time

our bodies are undergoing constant repair so if vascular repair can't happen effectively we end up bleeding in the organs that are getting worn such as the bowel from food moving through or the mouth from the mechanical action of chewing food
 
Do you notice you grind teeth when rolling , glench hard, even not trying to when doing activity that can cause it?

When are your gums bleeding?

If while flossing and brushing, did you do that too aggressively?
 
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