Opioids Pod Withdrawal - close to 60 hours in and feeling better??

[thePodFreak]

So i have been using pods daily for about 6 months, and went to a sub doctor to be perscribed subs since I figured the withdrawal would last 10 days of hell or something.

That said, me, being terrified of precipitated w/ds, kept waiting and waiting - I havent puked or even had diarrhea, and between 24-48 hours was hell (sweating, anxiety, being unable to sit still, no sleep)...however I tossed and turned all night last night, every hour felt like a day - but then this morning I finally got out of bed and...as long as I keep a blanket on I have no gooseflesh, chills once in a great while, but nothing else....Is this withdrawal just fucking with me and not even fully kicked in yet? It just seems weird because I feel 1000X better than yesterday, and considering saying fuck the subs and just doing this cold turkey...

Then again we will see as the hours pass...

 

[Wolfmans_BrothEr]

That sounds pretty good dude keep it going

If I were you I wouldn't even think about wd. If your feeling better then great, start going about ur day and I think that'll help ur brain recover more than sitting waiting to b back in withdrawal. I and many other feel that withdrawal is PARTIALLY mental, so if I were you I'd just try to forget about it

You've only been using opiates for a total of 6 months? Bc then the 60hrs def doesn't seem abnormal. I remember when I first started using and went into w.d I was fine after a few days, once you get into years of use is when withdrawal becomes really drawn out. I'd say your pretty much out of the thick of it. Consider urself lucky and hopefully u won't turn back

 

[thePodFreak]

Well 6 months daily. I have used them on and off for years but sparingly until the last year. Then over the last 6 months it became daily.

One thing that might have something to do with my tolerance is that I ALWAYS dosed with dxm and cimetidine. Sometimes added in Benadryl to get the most out of it.

Idk, all I know is it is 1030 and although I have some cravings I'm feeling a MILLION times better! Lets hope it lasts.

 

[sekio]

time is the best cure for opiate withdrawal. you'll feel much better as time goes on

 

[thePodFreak]

Well, I still feel decent, get the sweats a little on and off, but I actually took my dog for a walk. I keep trying to get myself to do things, even though a big part of me just wants to lay on the floor. Currently im working on sorting out my bills

 

[Cyb]

No intent on raining on your parade at all meant, but, now you have to prepare yourself for the situation in which you stop feeling the ''euphoria'' induced by feeling better. Suddenly you will want to use again... and you have to know how not to.

 

[psilocybin420]

PPT is soooo dead anyway, but ya if you got a nice hookup thats cool. Dude the pods on the internet are shit imo, but if you got some decent pods, or grow em, which i used to all the time, i promise you poppy pod tea withdrawal sucks but methadone or heroin is ten times worse. I hope you get feeling better. You will, its just kinda like the flu. try not to focus on it too much. I used to swig down a bit of cough syrup and vodka when it was really bad. runny nose, etc,etc. get better! its a bad case of the flu, and after that like dude said above you will want to get a good euporia going on, maybe if its bad enough try iboga.

 

[thePodFreak]

Well, I'm now halfway in to day 4, and aside from MASSIVE cravings and major insomnia, I feel ok. The cravings are intense though, and the insomnia just makes it worse (especially because thats when the cravings hit the worse, when im trying to fall asleep and just toss and turn).

Im going to keep trying to push through - it's so fucking hard with subs sitting right there and poppy tea one click away... I can't imagine anyone who has had to deal with full on CT w/d and had it last full blown more than a couple days. I am in awe of anyone who has done it.

 

[thePodFreak]

Well, in to the end of day four and I have to say, at the beginning of the day it felt terrible - horrible insomnia, insane anxiety, but that was about it. I went to the doc who prescribed me some clonazepam for the anxiety, and just taking it as directed I feel a billion times better. I currently have no cravings except for very mild ones. That said I kept myself very busy today Christmas shopping - which knowing I would not be buying anymore pods, I spent the money I would have spent on those on my family, and it genuinely felt good. My goal is to use the benzo from now til mabe end of the work week, then try to lower the dosage to where I take none. Last thing I need is a benzo addiction now.

All in all I know I'm only at end of day 4, but this has felt amazing coming out of the other side. Luckily I have no and never have had annoy druggie friends where I currently live, so there is really no temptation aside from boredom (which I have plenty) to use. My goal right now is to stay clean til Christmas and hopefully have given myself the best possible Christmas gift - sobriety.

I just hope that I get some sleep tonight, that is really the only factor killing me, and I had the bright idea to get a coffee so now I'm bouncing off the walls....but in a good way .

If I could give advice to anyone in withdrawal, it is to find a good doctor, get clonodine, clonazepam if possible, valerian root, 5htp supplement, vitamins, and just force yourself to do it AFTER you kill all your contacts. Get high, get confidence from that and use that confidence to delete those numbers. That way, even though it seems evil, you are forced to endure and get through the worst part. If I had pods in my house during the worst parts, I absolutely would have broken. But instead I soldiered through, didn't take the beep and now in,y a couple days after the major part of the physical withdrawal my confidence is high.

Lastly, wolfman, it seems dumb but you comment that said to keep it going really pushed me to keep pushing through. Little comments like that seem to make all the difference in the world when going through something emotionally taxing as opiate withdrawal, and I didn't even feel as bad as it can get.

Debating what to do with these subs, thinking of tossing them, but also might help someone in the future with a w/d of their own - I still have all 15 8mg strips he gave me for one week (lol Jesus I have heard 8mg alone is enough for some really heavy H or methadone users!)

Anyway, I jus want to thank everyone and share my experience - I was scared to death from all the horror stories I read about pod withdrawal, and really though subs were the only way out. But thank you baby Jesus that subs have precipitated w/d, which scared me into literally riding the withdrawal completely out. I'll keep you guys posted and may post another link, but Pods no fucking more. I have a final box that, on Christmas, I am going to throw away as a symbolic fuck you to my previous slave owner the poppy plant. Until then the goal is to force myself to have but not use them. Hard, but if I can do it, I think I can stay sober...think of it as a test of my will power.

Thanks to all and wish me luck!


Edit - forgot to mention I am getting some green to help with sleep and cravings, I honestly don't care how much I smoke, even if I smoked every fucking day I would rather do that than thos god damn pods.

 

[Leaping Gnome]

I have a final box that, on Christmas, I am going to throw away as a symbolic fuck you to my previous slave owner the poppy plant. Until then the goal is to force myself to have but not use them

That's 14 days & nights of them sitting there calling your name. If you don't want to use them, then why not destroy them right now? You can play all of the games you want and justify it a 1,000 ways, but if they are there, there is a good chance you will use them!!! You say your will power in keeping them...IMO, it's more like your security blanket with them sitting there. It's like playing a game of chance. Don't you want to play one that gives you the best odds like Blackjack? Or do you want to play the slots that the odds are all in favor of the house!

When I stopped drinking and then smoking I did what was tried and true by getting as far away from them as I could. In time I could be around them again, but NOT when I first stopped!!!

Anyway, all of my best to you and I hope you make it.

Leaping Gnome

 

[cook]

Don't make it too easy for yourself to relapse, toss the pods away right now as you're reading this and you will do yourself a big favor. That's exactly how I relapsed some time ago, if you really are ready to quit using you can throw them away. I know it's easier said than done, but if you do it, it's a big step forward.

 

[thePodFreak]

I did it. I actually did it, I went and I threw those bitches in the trash. Sure it's a waste of about 220 bucks, but I figure in another w/d that 220 is going in the toilet anyway /... and this way Im saving myself withdrawals.

You guys are awesome- calling me on my stupid bullshit, and it's been a godsend. I currently am just on a normal amount of clonozepam for about a week, but trying to takeit as spariingly as possible so I can work. Honestly for being half way in to day 5, I couldn't feel any better.

Just as a reference, post w/d I am using 5htp (doing MIRACLES for my mood, no depression since mid day 4, at which point I think I was still in mild w/d), and only since today clonazepam to help with the INSANE anxiety attacks I would get over stupid shit like paying bills. Also helps to get some sleep, after 4 days of NO sleep, I finally got about 8 hours (waking up every 4 hours or so) of sleep, which is making me feel good. Also, my diet is SHITLOADS of water, double multivitamin, some b12, valerian when im a little on edge, and hydroxizine (sp) to help when im trying to sleep or majorly on edge.

I went to my doctor with the full sub box and he said he couldnt take it back, but said the pharmacy might do it and refund my money. Id love to donate it to someone who needs it, anyone going through w/d could use a pick me up....sadly its so illegal to move this shit without the correct people involved that I think im either stuck throwing it out or keeping it. Such a waste that could help someone out there...

 

[cook]

I did it. I actually did it, I went and I threw those bitches in the trash. Sure it's a waste of about 220 bucks, but I figure in another w/d that 220 is going in the toilet anyway /... and this way Im saving myself withdrawals.

That's awesome, hope you made it sure you are not able to retrieve them from the bin, maybe it's ridiculous but these things have happened. I hope I could do the same thing, but so far I'm still stocked up with pods.

It's pretty common starting to feel just great or even superhuman after withdrawal, and that's one trap too i'm afraid. Just remember to be humble and recognize that you will have no power if you are going to let those plants linger in to your life again, it's just the same story right from the beginning. If you can keep that you will be good. I'm actually very happy for you at this point as I've been struggling with this same shit for some time but not really able to overcome it yet. Just remember that it is so very easy to get back to it and just staying as far away from opiates is the only thing that works 100%, otherwise you will re-live the experience over and over again. Not pretty.

 

[thePodFreak]

Thanks cook, every bit of encouragement makes me feel better.

also, haha I thought the same thing. I actually threw them in the bin and it gets picked up today by the trash guys in my neighborhood. If I can hold out and leave them in there until tonight I will be good. Can't say I havent already had the urge to go grab them "such a waste of money", "I can just use once in a while for a long time!".....Ugh, stupid thoughts. Instead I am working on rekindling some friendships that got stale after I started using. Going to hang out with one of them tonight just playing res evil 6 all night. Also drowning myself in my work. So far little to negligible cravings today, compared to yesterday where I would have ripped a piece of my skin off for some.

I know it's not over. I know its only day 5 and I have a lifetime to avoid them. But I am determined to never fall in to this trap again. Even though my family has no idea what I have gone through aside from a "flu", I owe them, and myself to never touch that devil plant again. I also realize how ungodly lucky I am to have gone through about a 72 hour w/d process (light symptoms after that) instead of how long it can go. Makes me count my blessings, and just a reminder that I might not get that lucky next time....

 

[RobotRipping]

well for acute withdrawals you're just about through. I have done PST withdrawals a few times and although different have similar withdrawals. After the 4 day mark i started eating again and getting a few hours of sleep. I hit a turning point somewhere around day 4 - day 6 where things got better each day. Definitely do not keep any pods around (if it were me i'd probably have dug them out of the garbage but dont do it) when PAWS sets in, you will end up using the pods one way or another so best to not have any access whatsoever.

just remember if you ever get back into them the withdrawals get worse and worse and last longer. I still feel a bit off from quitting PST almost 2 months ago but i've been taking opiates for 2 years or so.

 

[thePodFreak]

Robo - I actually mentioned in another thread, I sat there as the garbage man drove away with my pods...it was a sad moment, I think of the native american guy when someone litters kind of expression, with the single tear haha.

That said, Im halfway through day 5, a short amount of time, but with help of some newly procured herb and the clonazepam, most of my cravings (almost ALWAYS triggered by anxiety) have virtually subsided. Great part is I have NO connects (I'm 3000 miles from my old grounds), so I dont even really have a choice in the matter.

 

[RobotRipping]

lol i can see what u mean by sad moment but in the end you will feel better about it.

i think you're probably just about through it, there will still be shit popping up now and again but overall you're through the withdrawal. The next part is figuring out how to live without the pods, which is always the difficult part for me.

Careful with the clonazepam too, as you probably know, benzos are extremely addictive and cause one hell of a dependency. I used clonazepam to help me quit this time and it does help but i always cycle from benzos to opiates to benzos, just trading one substance for another. It's no way to live. I kind of wish i could have gotten on subs and just not used any benzos at all. Then i'd just have a sub dependency and nothing else but it seemed to be a life sentence for someone like me. I have bad anxiety normally too which is the biggest reason i constantly switch up drugs but always end up on stuck on something.

My cravings are gone really, i ended up quitting because of the side effects so there's no reason to go back, i couldn't handle it then and dont want to again. However i am dependent on benzos again, so be careful. I know all the risks and everything and still ended up stuck on benzos anyway.

 

[pbuilder]

How are you feeling now, I get some uncomfortable withdrawals from just a week of poppy seed tea usage, 1-2 pounds a day. 36-48 hours after my last dose fatigue chills and soreness begin. It peeks about 3 days after that point, and after a week I feel better. But I actually was surprised at how bad the withdrawals were from such a small binge. Extreme fatigue where going up a flight of stairs completely exhausts me, chills that require several sweaters, even rls is pretty bad and sleeping is a bitch. It is awesome that your withdrawals from several month of use have seemed to subsided so quick. Because the withdrawals like I said from even just 5-6 days of daily usage made me feel sick enough that I had to cancel plans and basically do nothing.

I can't imagine how bad withdrawals for myself would be if I used daily for months or a year. I sure as hell understand now though why quitting opiates is so difficult. A simple call or order will make you feel just fine again, so the temptation during full blown opiate withdrawal must be the hardest shit ever to deal with

Goid for you though taking the iniative to finally stop. Hope you stay clean, take care

I hope you listened to me in your other thread, and just threw the pods away, because realistically, it is impossible to resist when you have them in your posession, and each day you stay away from them, the louder they call your name lol. I could never EVER hold onto cocaine lol.

edit: and yea, having no contacts or drug using friends is a really good thing. Quiting coke for me was not possible when I still had my dealers numbers, and hung out with friends that would do coke. Too finally quit, one morning during a nasty comedown I just deleted all my dealers #'s, and anyone who had them or could get me coke themselves. When I had the numbers, each time I tried to quit I would just go a week clean, get drunk and instantly rationalize buying just 1 more gram. But once I just finally deleted all my connects, bam, almost 5 months clean now. Having easy access is definitely a no go when you are trying to quit something.

Because surprise surprise, my only slip up in the past 5 months was about 2 and a half months in when I had a bunch of friends over who were doing coke, it just wasn't possible to say know when I saw them doing line after line. Seeing that gave me the ultimate craving, and as I tried to resist I felt soo anxious, and just couldn't enjoy myself at all while trying to resist. I only did 2 or 3 lines though ( was very drunk ), and it has been another 2 and a half months since then. I like to think that slip-up doesn't count though because I didn't buy myself, it was freely offered from a friend and it was under 200mgs over the course of the night

EDIT2:

I did it. I actually did it, I went and I threw those bitches in the trash. Sure it's a waste of about 220 bucks, but I figure in another w/d that 220 is going in the toilet anyway /... and this way Im saving myself withdrawals.

You guys are awesome- calling me on my stupid bullshit, and it's been a godsend. I currently am just on a normal amount of clonozepam for about a week, but trying to takeit as spariingly as possible so I can work. Honestly for being half way in to day 5, I couldn't feel any better.

Just as a reference, post w/d I am using 5htp (doing MIRACLES for my mood, no depression since mid day 4, at which point I think I was still in mild w/d), and only since today clonazepam to help with the INSANE anxiety attacks I would get over stupid shit like paying bills. Also helps to get some sleep, after 4 days of NO sleep, I finally got about 8 hours (waking up every 4 hours or so) of sleep, which is making me feel good. Also, my diet is SHITLOADS of water, double multivitamin, some b12, valerian when im a little on edge, and hydroxizine (sp) to help when im trying to sleep or majorly on edge.

I went to my doctor with the full sub box and he said he couldnt take it back, but said the pharmacy might do it and refund my money. Id love to donate it to someone who needs it, anyone going through w/d could use a pick me up....sadly its so illegal to move this shit without the correct people involved that I think im either stuck throwing it out or keeping it. Such a waste that could help someone out there...

Good job man

Are you 5 days in from your last dose, or from the 48 hours after your last dose when withdrawals started kicking in. Either way, if you are already feeling better, I think you are past the worst, and things will only get better.

 

[Leaping Gnome]

You guys are awesome- calling me on my stupid bullshit, and it's been a godsend.

I was wondering if what I wrote would help in making you face the game you already KNEW you were playing.

I wish I could stop taking 60mg - 70mg a day of Hydrocodone. If it wasn't for the pain I'm in I would give it a go. At least it's better than a year ago at this time of being on 120mg - 180mg of Oxycodone! Talk about WD's with that amount!!! If my headaches stay under control as they have been, at least I won't have to back on such high doses and not back on the Oxycodone.

Anyway, I'm glad you gave it to the Native American with the tear drop. I know the add your talking about from probably 20 plus years ago. Sounds like something I would think of.

Leaping Gnome

 

[thePodFreak]

I'm 5 days total, which is so small but it's felt like an eternity! Either way, I am keeping myself busy as shit, or stoned as shit while these first couple days pass. I smoked today and I feel great now, no wd symptoms at all. Just sitting and listening to the joe rogan experience (yeah whatever lol)

Anyway, I know thing are a long way to go, but I feel optimistic. Does paws kick in AFTER the initial withdrawal, or after a period of time? Maybe I haven't hit them yet? Or they are very mild for me.