Colmes
Bluelighter
***Note to mods**** I have read, and am very familiar with forum rules, and I dont like repeat threads as much as the next person, but I ask that you please do not combine this with the mega-thread. I have a severe problem with this (Im not comparing my problem with anyone elses, but this isnt a "Can I get high off of sub" Thread. Many people have problems more severe than mine, but to me, this is what I have to live with, and I am very nervous about how to go about this, to me, its a big problem, and that is why I am asking to not put this into the megathread (at least until after I have recieved some good input, Thank you in advance, either way.
Hello everyone and thank you in advance for any help;
I'll make it quick - I used the search engine - no thread has an answer to my specific problem / question.
Firstly, I have used Suboxone (subutex, actually, the first time) to aid in w/d from an Oxy habit. I did not think withdrawls would be that bad - I went from 2.5mg to nothing, and for 3 weeks, it was terrible.
I went to my doctor, who prescribed me tramadol. Tramadol worked in taking away the horrible withdrawl symptoms I was still expieriencing, but it was mainly the "after withdrawl" problems; i.e. Severe depression, and anxiety, and RLS.
I was on Tramadol for 3 months - roughly 200-250mg a day, lets say 250mg daily. All in all, my point, I have not been opiate or opiod free in about 5 months. But, i've been close (I should have waited it out after 3 weeks, I know)
MY QUESTION / Advice Seeking;
I have been off Tramadol (had tried to taper, as i dont like being on a pill that has so many physcological and physical effects on my body, when I am not benefiting at all - I also believe that that medicine, coupled with Nortriptyline, which I have since quit, and gone back on prozac, was raising my blood sugar.
I am now on approx 2mg of Suboxone daily. I know that taking it nasally gives that nice relaxing buzz, and motivation, but have since (for about 5 days) been taking it strictly subligually. I am not looking to get high, im looking to get off opiates.
I have 16mg of Suboxone, may be too much, but thats what I have come across, and it was not cheap, so I want to make it a success this time.
Assuming I am on 2mg of Sub a day-
How do I taper myself, using what I have in
A) the correct manner (i.e., does it matter if you take it insuffuated vs sublingually, theraputically speaking?)
B) Do I take it 2 times a day? upon waking, and right before I go to sleep?
C) What is a correct tapering schedual for me? Again I THANK anyone and everyone who has input; I cant just stop tramadol; i've tried + taking it is something I dont want to do to my body, where months turn into years ect; and I KNOW from prior exp I cant cold turkey sub - I have college, and responsibilities. I also prone to depression, so it really hits hard.
All in all, I would like to know the correct way to take it, what times of day to take it, how much of my 16mg I need to make this as comfortable as possible, and what would my tapering schedual be? I'm sick of being on this stuff, as my mood goes from great to terrible, and, well, for all the other reasons; I feel I can do without it, but want to taper in a mature manner. If you could just do a --------------
-------"Day Time and Number of Take Daily"-------- Format, that would be great, I could easily apply, and understand it.
I have 16mg - If I need less, let me know, if 16mg will just make it more comfortable, and thats your opinion, let me know too. Anyone who has any input [ minus "Why the fuck are you using sub in the first place? - your answer is, to kick my oxycodone to subutex to tramadol habit, is why, and I cant just stop, i've tried].
Thank you VERY much in advance for reading, and anyone who takes the time to just explain this to me, and give their own advice.
Take care.
thing - assuming (we'll say I am on 2mg of suboxone daily, to be relatively comfortable) - and also, brief education on the most effective and medically theraputic way to inject (sublingual(probably the obvious answer) or intra-nasally-where less is needed, but there is a buzz, which kinda feels like abuse))
Note - I also have Clonidine, and Diazapam (lots of tolerance to all benzos) to help along. Thanks.
Hello everyone and thank you in advance for any help;
I'll make it quick - I used the search engine - no thread has an answer to my specific problem / question.
Firstly, I have used Suboxone (subutex, actually, the first time) to aid in w/d from an Oxy habit. I did not think withdrawls would be that bad - I went from 2.5mg to nothing, and for 3 weeks, it was terrible.
I went to my doctor, who prescribed me tramadol. Tramadol worked in taking away the horrible withdrawl symptoms I was still expieriencing, but it was mainly the "after withdrawl" problems; i.e. Severe depression, and anxiety, and RLS.
I was on Tramadol for 3 months - roughly 200-250mg a day, lets say 250mg daily. All in all, my point, I have not been opiate or opiod free in about 5 months. But, i've been close (I should have waited it out after 3 weeks, I know)
MY QUESTION / Advice Seeking;
I have been off Tramadol (had tried to taper, as i dont like being on a pill that has so many physcological and physical effects on my body, when I am not benefiting at all - I also believe that that medicine, coupled with Nortriptyline, which I have since quit, and gone back on prozac, was raising my blood sugar.
I am now on approx 2mg of Suboxone daily. I know that taking it nasally gives that nice relaxing buzz, and motivation, but have since (for about 5 days) been taking it strictly subligually. I am not looking to get high, im looking to get off opiates.
I have 16mg of Suboxone, may be too much, but thats what I have come across, and it was not cheap, so I want to make it a success this time.
Assuming I am on 2mg of Sub a day-
How do I taper myself, using what I have in
A) the correct manner (i.e., does it matter if you take it insuffuated vs sublingually, theraputically speaking?)
B) Do I take it 2 times a day? upon waking, and right before I go to sleep?
C) What is a correct tapering schedual for me? Again I THANK anyone and everyone who has input; I cant just stop tramadol; i've tried + taking it is something I dont want to do to my body, where months turn into years ect; and I KNOW from prior exp I cant cold turkey sub - I have college, and responsibilities. I also prone to depression, so it really hits hard.
All in all, I would like to know the correct way to take it, what times of day to take it, how much of my 16mg I need to make this as comfortable as possible, and what would my tapering schedual be? I'm sick of being on this stuff, as my mood goes from great to terrible, and, well, for all the other reasons; I feel I can do without it, but want to taper in a mature manner. If you could just do a --------------
-------"Day Time and Number of Take Daily"-------- Format, that would be great, I could easily apply, and understand it.
I have 16mg - If I need less, let me know, if 16mg will just make it more comfortable, and thats your opinion, let me know too. Anyone who has any input [ minus "Why the fuck are you using sub in the first place? - your answer is, to kick my oxycodone to subutex to tramadol habit, is why, and I cant just stop, i've tried].
Thank you VERY much in advance for reading, and anyone who takes the time to just explain this to me, and give their own advice.
Take care.
thing - assuming (we'll say I am on 2mg of suboxone daily, to be relatively comfortable) - and also, brief education on the most effective and medically theraputic way to inject (sublingual(probably the obvious answer) or intra-nasally-where less is needed, but there is a buzz, which kinda feels like abuse))
Note - I also have Clonidine, and Diazapam (lots of tolerance to all benzos) to help along. Thanks.
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