Picture of the salvian inter-realm

[Lord]

Here is my crappy rendition of an interrealm within the salvia space. This substance ruined my life... so I thought I could make the best of it.

 

[Samulson]

Not bad work, visually I could see using a black or dark background to blend in the aliasing on the outside image lines. Looks like it was freedive off the edge as far as a trip goes though.

 

[Incunabula]

How did it ruin your life?

 

[Lord]

How did it ruin your life?

I tried it when I was 15 and thought of it as a serious high.
I combined it with uppers, downers, weed, alcohol, etc. when I was 16 and by the end I came back from a trip after which I knew something in my life would be like a nightmare. The last time I smoked it, after a DXM binge and a few years of drug abuse, I felt like I was desynchronized from the rest of reality and I could never come back to the "real" part of the world I was used to. From age 16, it made me think of life as being fake or unreal. My psychosis just as adulthood came around was deeply about my use of salvia and it got me stuck in a mental prison in which I'm harassed me constantly.
Salvia changed my mind and made me insane both in a way that others can't fully sympathize with.

Nevertheless, the salvia goes deeper than the brainwashing from those hospitals. Thanks.

 

[AbusedTampon]

I tried it when I was 15 and thought of it as a serious high.
I combined it with uppers, downers, weed, alcohol, etc. when I was 16 and by the end I came back from a trip after which I knew something in my life would be like a nightmare. The last time I smoked it, after a DXM binge and a few years of drug abuse, I felt like I was desynchronized from the rest of reality and I could never come back to the "real" part of the world I was used to. From age 16, it made me think of life as being fake or unreal. My psychosis just as adulthood came around was deeply about my use of salvia and it got me stuck in a mental prison in which I'm harassed me constantly.
Salvia changed my mind and made me insane both in a way that others can't fully sympathize with.

Nevertheless, the salvia goes deeper than the brainwashing from those hospitals. Thanks.

Yet another case of psychedelic induced psychosis I plan to add to my book on why I'm staying away from hard psychedelics, deliriants, disassociatives etc. The more I read these type of first hand experiences with mainly serotonin, and psychedelic induced psychosis, the more I do NOT want to try them haha. Its funny how opiates are considered the scariest drugs in the world, no, fuck that, 6 bottles of DXM or a months worth of smoking salvia each day, is, by far and definite from what I've read, seen, heard, is the worst shit that I could imagine happening to someone. You literally fall apart inside and become scared of yourself and the world around you, you're trapped and don't know how, when, why, or where. Sadly I still see people make these same mistakes. Pyschosis is the worst fucking shit that can happen to someone. I don't care how rare or how small of a chance I have at getting it with psychedelics, deliriants, etc. But I am never taking the smallest risk with psychosis, you don't fuck with that haha. Well, I'm going to go enjoy my opiate buzz, I really hope more people can learn from these types of mistakes and finally understand what they're dealing with and learn to fear and respect it. Cheers.

 

[Xorkoth]

Well if you smoke salvia every day for a month you're not a typical user. Likewise with any psychedelic. Drug abuse is drug abuse. If you take tried and true psychedelics periodically, you're unlikely to run into these problems unless you're not the type who should take psychedelics. All drugs are dangerous if you're not careful. Also there is a high correlation I have noticed between people taking psychedelics at young ages (15 for example, which was the age in the post you were responding to) and having tramatic experiences. Don't take psychedelics until you're emotionally mature and reasonably grown up.

Also good luck with the opiates man... have you ever been addicted to opiates for 10 years? I have. It always starts innocently. I've tripped probably a thousand times (and yes my usage was very excessive for years, I don't recommend that level of use), but my opiate addiction fucked my life up SO MUCH MORE than any trip ever has. In fact I've never had my life fucked up from tripping, I did get into quite a bit of sleep deprivation which took a while to recover from though.

I'd suspect a fair number of people who tripped as often as I have might run into issues, but if you keep it to a responsible level and keep your head about you, it's far less likely you'll end up with issues than it is if you start using and enjoy opiates. I used them innocently for a couple of years and slowly, without me being able to realize, it turned into a soul-crushing addiction. It happens to a shockingly high percentage of people I see posting about enjoying opiates recreationally on this forum, and in people I know in real life. I went to high school with a couple of people who are dead now because of them, and they started innocently too. Opiates are no toy, trust me on that. I truly hope you're one of those people who can maintain an occasional, responsible level of usage with them, but my life experiences have shown me that at least among the people I have come in contact with, opiates usage has a very high incidence of leading to addiction. And addiction can and will fuck your world up.

Opiates in infrequent/non-addictive usage are gentle and pretty harmless. But develop a habit and you'll see why people call them the worst drugs.

 

[AbusedTampon]

I see what you mean. I just for some reason am scared of going loony more than anything else, yes even losing everything I have for opiates. However, that will most likely not happen as I have been taking opiates with extreme caution for nearly a decade now, not constantly, obviously. And further more I only now take Tram, occasional vics, rarely oxy's, and VERY rarely dillys. Like holiday type of rare occasion.
(And I've tried nearly every opiate, and yes including IVing which I have only done a handful of times in my whole life, IVing that is, and the times I did IV are very spread out on my timeline.)

As for how I've managed, around 7 years ago at what I consider the most stressful time of my life, I was on the brink of full on addiction, after using oxy's for almost 6 months, but I managed to catch myself, with the help of some friends, and detox by myself and THAT one time of going through those w/ds I grew my respect and caution for opiates. I now, and have been for the past few years, have been taking onyl enough vicoden for my ptefered euphoria occasionally like once a month or maybe even twice. And at the most depressed times I get, which are rare, I will IV AN oxy or dilly If I manage to get one. I've always had a iron grip on myself and always had/have strong self control over myself and I've nearly always have been able to say no to something that I know and understand will only bring negativity into my life. That said at this point I don't even have the urge to take more than my occasional chill out session only a small want to take more that I've learned to shut out completely and have done so successfully for a very long time now. I really hope I don't sound like I'm boasting or being cocky I just want to prove that there are some people, like myself, who can "responsibly" take opiates on occasion for years and managed to stay productive in life while doing so. And also at this point you'd be surprised that these smaller opiates even still work for my tolereance but going a month and more without taking one or two and repeat actually keeps my tolereance significantly low. Yet again I take opiates rarely and only when I feel down, I do instead of drinking heavily or taking risks with New things That could potentially ruin my life. I've managed so far and I plan to keep taking to help me get through my tough times instead of resorting to something more irrational, stupid, dangerous etc.

And yet another reason why this has worked out for me is because a full bottle of vics, oxy's, or tram has lasted me for almost a year.

Again not boasting or trying to sound like an asshole, I know how dangerous opiates are and how you basically gamble when you take them constantly, which is exactly why I started taking them more and more rarely, I would never suggest someone opiates and use my life experience to make it seem ok, like how I manage with them as I have a near decade of careful experience with them and have a strong self control of myself, I would, have not, and never will do this to anyone. The only reason I am even posting this is because I hate people assume that there is now way to carefully take opiates with have a perception-wise successful and productive life. But as I said opiates are not for anyone and I have never suggested for someone to take them, even at what they perceived as a last resort. I really hope I'm not coming off as an arrogant, narcissistic ass but I really wanted to share my success in defeating the demon that is opiate dependence.
(And psychedelics irrationally scare me even with the smallest of chances. Plus they don't seem worth it imo and I don't if I should have to try them just because they're 'safe' , I'm fine without them and happy with my opiate operation I've had going and familiarise with 100% again I fear psychosis more than anything else, including a corrupt life of opiates, that I thankfully have managed to avoid.)

 

[Xorkoth]

Congrats on being able to do that, I sure can't.

 

[AbusedTampon]

Congrats on being able to do that, I sure can't.

I can completely understand that if you think that I'm bullshitting, if you are anyways, but I'd need a day or to to go into detail and explain just how I've managed. What I attempted back there was to summarize my opiate journey in as little time I could. Again I can understand if you think I'm bs'ing but it was no where near easy to get to how I can manage with opiates now. And I really was born in a near perfect environment I.E friends, circumstances, and the ability to learn from others mistakes with opiates rather than paging the price my own. I do consider myself ridiculously luck and thankful for the perfect circumstances that have let me now be able to harness the amazing power of opiates. And I apologize if it may sound as if rubbing my personally valued achievement in your unfortunate experience with opiates... I just wanted to share something that took years and years to achieve and no where easily either. Anyways, I apologize for all the ranting, wanted to get it out, and again if you think I'm bullshitting I can easily understand, the only proof I have of my WHOLE journey are 4 friends that grew up with me as I struggled with opiates and still are friends to this day. Lastly I would just like to say I really do feel bad that opiates did what they did to you, it truly is not for everyone, almost not at all for everyone. But I am glad to see that you've managed to triumph against what opiates did to you. Best of luck and cheers. And don't keep your opinion of my story to yourself, feel free to call me out on bullshit if you feel as though it deserves it, I can fully understand your doubt on my life especially over the internet haha

 

[Samulson]

Experiences such as you describe are best understood under the lens of mysticism. The teachings you will find will give you the perspective required to integrate your experiences, and come out the other side in balance and harmony. Best of luck on your journey, it is not an easy one.

 

[AbusedTampon]

Experiences such as you describe are best understood under the lens of mysticism. The teachings you will find will give you the perspective required to integrate your experiences, and come out the other side in balance and harmony. Best of luck on your journey, it is not an easy one.

Thanks man but ironically one of the things that got me through my continuing journey was harsh, cold truth, facts and absolute reasonability and the constant battle of using my logical thinking over my spiritual. Which, don't get me wrong, I am not putting down or anything of that matter, in fact I respect anyone who truly is able to find peace and serenity without any drugs, chemicals, and general environmental forces and pressure. I envy those who but only because I cannot, it's something that as you said, is a journey in itself to learn and understand. Let all alone master. But unfortunately I have grown to enjoy my cold, harsh logically-induced, pessimism that was my armor in the triumph against the non-merciful power of opiate dependence. Thanks for the wise words and I wish you luck as well, seems to be on your side already ?