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Philosophy of Politics: Partisanism

gordonliddy said:
Was the US Civil War an inevitable consequence of reactionary partisanism?
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Don't know
gordonliddy said:
In other words, will political factionalism usually lead to war during escalations?
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I think moreso these days because minority views can be louder due to the reach of the internet, but opposing views can too, and then whichever way the censorship goes may likely be a deciding factor. That's my spitball for now

I like the question. A lot to think about
 
Where did all the political threads go? Last I saw someone posted Scott Adams videos debunking the media then suddenly all the pages magically disappeared.
 
gordonliddy said:
Was the US Civil War an inevitable consequence of reactionary partisanism?

In other words, will political factionalism usually lead to war during escalations?
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No... you can have partisanship that functions well, even respectably, as long as there is a thread of shared values between the multiple sides. Partisans can all agree on a shared vision, but disagree on how to get there.

The US Civil War was about incompatible values. There's not much middle ground on slavery vs. abolition. Industrialization was replacing the need for slaves and some people wanted to live in the past. We can surmise that, despite centuries of slavery, most people were sort of not okay with it, but maybe went along with it because how else are you supposed to get anything done without slaves? But once industrialization hit the scene, slavery became redundant in the way it was being used. And I think that's when the abolitionist moral majority started to gain real power.

So no... political factionism is not in of itself a problem, it's when values become irreconcilable for many years that you start to see wars.

The US for example is a centrist nation. Every election is almost a 50/50 split. I think one day if you see 60/40 you should be concerned.
 
...there is slavery occurring today. Maybe in insta-gammable, holiday, hot -spots. Maybe not a media headline, so let's focus on yesteryear. m'kay 😉
 
Asclepius said:
...there is slavery occurring today. Maybe in insta-gammable, holiday, hot -spots. Maybe not a media headline, so let's focus on yesteryear. m'kay 😉
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The kind of slavery that supports industry is absolutely alive today, but unlike in the past, it is enabled by economic and political inequality rather than lack of technology that could replace it. The countries that still use de facto slavery can be taken advantage of because they are undeveloped and have a poor standard of living. As those countries develop, slavery becomes less tenable.

The only exception which I think may never change is the slavery of sex trafficking... and organ trafficking as well. I've only had peripheral contact with people fighting that fight and I was already horrified by what I learned. And that was like a grain of sand of knowledge compared to what's actually going on out there.
 
Vice President Aaron Burr killed Secretary of the US Treasury Alexander Hamilton in a duel. He is the guy on the American 10 dollar bill.
Honestly, they should have put Aaron Burr on it.
I have little respect for the loser of a duel. 16.6% fatality rate. He was like the Kennedys; can't take a bullet, just kidding.
American politics hasn't seen a duel, well in a long time. Also politics in this country was even uglier, at various times in the past.
I believe the whole incident was partisan politically and besides a vice president wasted another politician.
I think we are far and away from that happening anytime soon or worse.
gordonliddy said:
Was the US Civil War an inevitable consequence of reactionary partisanism?

In other words, will political factionalism usually lead to war during escalations?
Click to expand...
 
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