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Harm Reduction Phenibut + Hydrocodone + Tolerance to both = unsafe at modest doses?

Seattle_Stranger

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Please don't lecture me. I'm not a probably-will-do-it-anyway kind of guy, I heed good advice when it's given. :)


I have a tolerance to phenibut now after a couple months of on and off experimentation, up to 2g produced negligible effects a couple days ago. Looking to wash out until tomorrow night (Halloween).

I also have a tolerance to kratom, 8g 2x/day, which translates over to other opiates. I don't often get my hands on synthetic opiates, but I just procured some 10mg hydrocodones. 30mg plugged followed up by 10mg oral produced a subtle buzz, enjoyable but in no way inebriating, noddy, overwhelming, or anything like that.

I should add that I have combined kratom and phenibut in these doses and it honestly didn't seem to change much in terms of effects.

My question is exactly how unsafe would you think, with this tolerance, to dose on similar doses to what I'm used to, but simply combined? I would likely dose on ~8g kratom at 1 or 2pm, ~1.8g phenibut at maybe 4pm, and then 30mg hydrocodone at ~9pm, neither being large doses by any means, perhaps some aniracetam for minor wakefulness, color perception, etc.. Just looking for that phenibut anxiety relief and sociability coupled with opiate euphoria for a social setting.

Thanks!
 
Not really dangerous. I take 4-5 gs of phenibut a day, along with 10 grams kratom, 5x per day. A few times a month I can get some oxy. Last night I did 45mg at 6pm, followed by another 15mg at 10pm, and was never even in any danger of respritory depression. In fact it was quite enjoyable. I don't think phenibut slows breathing, so it's not a problem.
 
Stotched said:
Not really dangerous. I take 4-5 gs of phenibut a day, along with 10 grams kratom, 5x per day. A few times a month I can get some oxy. Last night I did 45mg at 6pm, followed by another 15mg at 10pm, and was never even in any danger of respritory depression. In fact it was quite enjoyable. I don't think phenibut slows breathing, so it's not a problem.
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Good to know, thank you very much for the input! I will proceed with utmost caution anyway.

I decided I'm going to take the phenibut far earlier so it has more of a chance of being over it's peak concentration by the time the hydrocodone is in my system. I will not drink much alcohol at all either, probably a couple glasses of wine, and that'll be hours after the hydro as well.
 
Phenibut + opiate mix is ok IMO. Phenibut isnt as potentiating as benzos or booze I dont think, but id rathee take too littlwr than too much
 
Turned out 40mg oral hydrocodone was barely felt. I've never swallowed more than that at once ever.

Either my tolerance is way higher than I thought, or taking opiates and going to a loud, intense party didn't produce the buzz I had hoped for, or the phenibut (or something else?) caused diminished effects?

I guess my opiate honeymoon is over. Years of daily kratom use has resulted in junkie-level tolerance. Time to taper down... :(
 
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