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Misc Phenibut am I taking to much?

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Johnyderp

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So I've been taking Phenibut lately for this anxiety I have been having. I get this incredible tightness in my chest and it was starting to really hurt. When I first took the Phenibut it loosened all those muscles in my chest and stopped them from contracting. Ergo relief. So I was using capsules that I got from a well known Health and Vitamin shop online, they worked great and even gave some euphoria but were starting to get to expensive.

I thought I would save myself some money and buy a bulk 100g's for a TON cheaper. There were good reviews on it so I bought it. Now the past week I've been taking it and I'm using my scale to measure out doses. With the capsules I would take 1 gram and feel wonderful, but measuring out a gram with this stuff and I don't feel any euphoria and my anxiety will go away for a little bit but come back very soon. So the obvious solution is to take another gram, so I do. 8( This cycle repeats a few more times, I'll take the first 1 gram, then it doesn't really work then I'll take another 500mg, doesn't really help and then another 500mg.

By the time I'm at the last 500mg it's around 7 at night and I'm exhausted. I can barely keep my eyes open. It basically puts me out like a tranquilizer. This makes no sense to me as I've taken up to 3 grams of the capsules that I had and felt fine with no tiredness and added euphoria and the Phenibut's wonderful anxiolytic properties. Is the quality of my Phenibut just garbage? Is my scale broken? I don't want to take it anymore as I'm afraid of what it could be doing to me. Any ideas would be welcome thanks.
 
Tolerance builds up very rapidly and addiction does too. I wouldn't take any more than 1g per week. 2 x 500mg a week, just before bed. That's probably about as far as one could go without getting into trouble.
 
Johnyderp said:
So I've been taking Phenibut lately for this anxiety I have been having. I get this incredible tightness in my chest and it was starting to really hurt. When I first took the Phenibut it loosened all those muscles in my chest and stopped them from contracting. Ergo relief. So I was using capsules that I got from a well known Health and Vitamin shop online, they worked great and even gave some euphoria but were starting to get to expensive.

I thought I would save myself some money and buy a bulk 100g's for a TON cheaper. There were good reviews on it so I bought it. Now the past week I've been taking it and I'm using my scale to measure out doses. With the capsules I would take 1 gram and feel wonderful, but measuring out a gram with this stuff and I don't feel any euphoria and my anxiety will go away for a little bit but come back very soon. So the obvious solution is to take another gram, so I do. 8( This cycle repeats a few more times, I'll take the first 1 gram, then it doesn't really work then I'll take another 500mg, doesn't really help and then another 500mg.

By the time I'm at the last 500mg it's around 7 at night and I'm exhausted. I can barely keep my eyes open. It basically puts me out like a tranquilizer. This makes no sense to me as I've taken up to 3 grams of the capsules that I had and felt fine with no tiredness and added euphoria and the Phenibut's wonderful anxiolytic properties. Is the quality of my Phenibut just garbage? Is my scale broken? I don't want to take it anymore as I'm afraid of what it could be doing to me. Any ideas would be welcome thanks.
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Hi

I don't know anything about phenibut, so I just googled half life, and it is only five hours.
Do you find you are getting anxious when the dose wears off?

What was the original cause of your anxiety and muscle stiffness before starting phenibut?

I know all about benzos and I think phenibut acts like a benzo? (correct me if I am wrong)

Could you try and stabilise by taking a small amount (enough to stave off withdrawals) say, every four hours and then look at tapering down off the phenibut?
I would imagine there are lots of people on here who have posted about phenibut, when I found out I was addicted to benzos I read up all I could.
This may also help you.
 
Take it from a full blown phenibut addict.. stop while you can.. If you can't use responsibly then don't use at all..

And Phenibut is a GABA-b agonist, benzos are GABA-a
 
The thing about shit drugs, is taking more of the shit drug in hope that it will stop being shitty just results in shitty side-effects. :p

I think you either got a bad batch or you're simply taking it too often. Toss it out, go back to the stuff that was working, and only take it every other day at most. I know there's a phenibut mega-thread around here somewhere, do a search and get to reading.
 
Yah it's tolerance. From experience it has a lot faster of a tolerance builder than benzo's or any other standard CNS depressant that I have tried. It is physically addictive
 
velmwend said:
Tolerance builds up very rapidly and addiction does too. I wouldn't take any more than 1g per week. 2 x 500mg a week, just before bed. That's probably about as far as one could go without getting into trouble.
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I use this once a week to make my job more manageable. It's not inebriating and works fucking wonders. What prevents this from being the perfect drug is the tolerance curve is much steeper than benzos, and it apparently can cause crazy wds Don't link that forum. and i think i may have suffered from this recently though I've really been trying to manage it, not take it more than 2 times/week

these gabanergics are fucking insidious man. even when i think i'm responsibly controlling my intake... nope.
 
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Phenibut loses it's euphoria very quickly. Before you know it, you have developed a dependence on phenibut. It's happened to me here recently. Redosing phenibut is never a good idea IME.
 
brutus said:
Phenibut loses it's euphoria very quickly. Before you know it, you have developed a dependence on phenibut. It's happened to me here recently. Redosing phenibut is never a good idea IME.
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how much do you take to achieve euphoria? this drug starts having diminishing returns whenever i go above 1-1.5 g
 
Hey OP your inbox is full but my reply is:

You will probably still be building up a tolerance even with that dosing regime.. Other than that I don't know :\ I still get slight euphoria and positive affects (although my doses are stupidly high) and I use every day and have done for months and months.. Come to think of it it probably is the doses I take.. Definitely not recommended.
 
Euphoria is probably the wrong word to use when describing phenibut.. But it definitely makes you feel good..
 
rickolasnice said:
Hey OP your inbox is full but my reply is:

You will probably still be building up a tolerance even with that dosing regime.. Other than that I don't know :\ I still get slight euphoria and positive affects (although my doses are stupidly high) and I use every day and have done for months and months.. Come to think of it it probably is the doses I take.. Definitely not recommended.
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Yeah it may have just been a bad batch. I've since stopped taking it and am working out a good Kava dose.

And thank you all for the replies. My dosing schedule was 2-3 days on 4-7 days off. I would enjoy it a couple of days then I'd use a plethora of other natural herbs and supplements for my anxiety. I don't know what the cause of my anxiety is either. I don't really get the mental effects of anxiety just the physical ones. Mainly very very tight chest and strained muscles in that area.
 
I bought mine from ebay (uk)...25g in plain white plastic container - Good stuff. I took my 3rd ever dose last night, 1 hour before bed. I took 600mg.

I had the most refreshing sleep in months. I had very vivid, pleasant 'phenny dreams'. I woke up feeling content, lucid and happy. Then...wooosh - when I came around some more, I felt very horny.

After sex I dozed for some time, falling in and out of consciousness - letting an undulating stream of creative, intellectual and spiritual insights wash over me.

When I got up, I felt motivated and content. I walked into the garden and bonded with nature - taking in sights, smells and sounds of your typical English garden in the spring. I felt 'at home'. My vision was acute, aromas entered my mind and exploded, filling me with warm memories of childhood and magical places I'm so familar with but have never visited in my physical body.

Phenibut is amazing. definitely only a once a week, 500-600mg affair for me, because I don't want to spoil this.

It's given me some great creative ideas this morning - I can work on these for weeks :)
 
I agree with some other posts....you build up a tolerance quickly...like within days. The withdrawal for me was horrible. I get addicted to things quickly...I should've known better. Good luck and hope everything works out!
 
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