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Phendimetrazine - everything I have found written states this is nothing special

chooster101

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I know it is not safe to inject pills and they are meant for oral use.
I am thankful to Blue Light for everything provided. It has probably saved my life more than once.

Everything I have found online inlcuding here doesn't point to this being anything special, but it seemed to work for my friend. Yes, it is a real life friend and not me, but I am considering. My experience with it to this point is fantastic. Much better than the alternatives I have been able to find easily.


He has Phendimetrazine brown 105mg Capsules which are black and white with a large E beside 5254. The E is larger like a emblem, etc and E5254 is on each half of the capsule.
These were prescribed for weight loss.

He found where people are injecting the 35mg version which doesn't seem to be the extended release as these 105 mg are.
Broken down they are beads. If you crush enough they will turn to a fine powder.
I previously snorted a small lline and boom it certainly is like a clean meth without being as jittery strong. A smooth come up and then is hanging around as needed.
My bud said when he injected it burned but the reaction was the same, a smooth head change and that it had decent legs.

It isn't coke by far, nor is it add or meth, much lighter at these dosages.
I plan to determine a safe larger dose for me this evening and have a couplke of questions I hope someone can give some common sense advice or even an accurate answer is great!

1. When trying a higher dose is there a percentage or what would be the best way to determine how much more to add? It isn't Fent, but I can see where people make mistakes with Fent. I want to treat it like dynamite and be accurrate. Would you go up 5mg or 15? What determines your amount?
I am curious in general, and I'm sure this question has been answered generally. I am looking for specific information on this phenD, but also a general opinion, so any answer is great and I know better than to follow people ont he internet, I use my own brain and your input to make my final decision regarding anything.

2. PhenD seems to stay in your system a long time, IE 17+ hours? Do I understand that correctly? If this stays active in my system for that long I should be even more careful about redosing. How do I make sure I understand the exact amount of time it is in my system and active, versus I don't care about a drug test and it being in my urine, just if it is going to compound any effects.

3. Other than the obvious, normal reasons for not injecting anything is there a reason I should not choose IV as my ROA? I understand there is reportedly no euphoria or buzz to speak off, but I have a different experience. I practice safe. I do not mess around with sterility. I am asking more int he vein of will the glass beads cut my lungs, or is there some other chemical not removed by micron filtration I could be missing? I checked the A-Z, and searched BL along with google and other places for the past couple of weeks. (I have experience with a pin using dills and oxy and yes I know oral is supposedly / reportedly a better ROA with oxy, but it simply is not for me. IV is.)

4. Does anyone else want to know anything about this I may assist with, or want me to try anything with it? I may already be planning something or able and willing depending on what IT is.

It seems to have been around for a long time, looked at and passed by as in most don't like it, which I understand if there are other alternatives around, unfortunately there are not any other options for me at this time.
My best pain relief has come from three 4mg dillies and eight 15mg oxy ir in the same pin.
I have been taking Hydrocodone for about 3 years without a break, and do not take more than prescribed, but I do take other things and have a good knowledge of these things and how they affect me.
I am not looking to this for pain relief, I was stating my usage to show experience with the IV ROA.
Thanks for your time.
 
PhenDImetrazine is a PRO-drug...it is pointless to take it any way but oral, let alone stupid.
 
I read about that many times over but must not understand.
I can say with certainty it does work when snorted... and at that a small amount, nowhere near what people say they are dosing on the IR version of 35mg where these are the ER version at 105 and I had a small sample of the 105, IE around the .2 mark in weight on the scale.
I have done many stupid things in my life, I never claimed otherwise, but I did ask some specific questions if you could help with any of those it would be awesome.

Completely off-topic and since it seems the general trend of some folks who post here... your "stupid" comment is so effective at harm reduction
When someone posts here for the first time asking for help you should attempt to embrace and provide guidance. Your attitude and comment could push someone away from this site as for many of us it is hard enough to make a post at all, much less the first one.
It is great that you know so much you can call out "stupid", but is it possible to use your knowledge of the subject in a way which may help someone rather than offend or turn them away?
Fortunately the extent of me caring about your response has been reached and I may now continue to look forward to reasonable responses from the better of Blue Light.
but thanks for your time.
 
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Hey chooster, don't let that put you off. The person expressed his opinion in a blunt manner. These types of pills aren't great to be iv'd. Personally, I was prescribed this after phentermine for weight loss. It felt a bit stronger but not by much. I had bad dry mouth and a little light-headed. I don't recall them being capsules, I seem to remember tablets and not very recreational. Just go easy on them. Welcome to Bluelight!
 
Hey chooster, don't let that put you off. The person expressed his opinion in a blunt manner. These types of pills aren't great to be iv'd. Personally, I was prescribed this after phentermine for weight loss. It felt a bit stronger but not by much. I had bad dry mouth and a little light-headed. I don't recall them being capsules, I seem to remember tablets and not very recreational. Just go easy on them. Welcome to Bluelight!

Thanks T. Your reply is sincerely appreciated.
...and not what I hoped to hear, but that's the way it goes.
My buddy said he tried three different meds, but he didn't from what I can tell. He had these small speckled oblong pills first which I think were phendimetrazine 35mg. He told the doc they weren't working to well so he switched to the 105 mg version. He told the doc it still wasn't what he needed and was given diethylpropion DTAB 25 mg. he told the doc those didn't work either and the doc said that is all he can do is one of those three. My buddy didn't know at that point which would be "better" so stuck with the D.

The phenDI 105 seemed to be the best option until we could investigate. I should revisit the Dtab, but if what he felt from the iv .2 gave him a rush,no legs, 10 - 15 mins and mostly gone, but he def got something, it wasn't placebo heh. I will most certainly go easy
 
Can anyone point me to or take a minute and help me understand more about what makes this pro drug "activate"?
If 30% is turned to phentermine where is that done? The liver?
I injected a small amount and within a few mins had an intense speed rush and then went away as fast as it came.
I was not on anything else at the time except for my daily BP meds.
 
It is converted to phentermine in the liver. It is not "activated" in any way. Injecting prodrugs is a wasteful practice, as others have said...you're best taking these orally.
 
God damn they need to bring back Preludin. I was hoping there would be something on phenmetrazine here.
 
I don't care about offending you, you KNOW what you are doing is harmful, stupid, and wrong...if you know all these things and want to continue, that is up to you. I am more worried about someone else stumbling upon this thread, reading your post, and deciding it is worthwhile to shoot up phendimetrazine(it is NOT, any way you get it into your blood will get it to the liver to be converted to phenmetrazine and will "work", but the oral route will get more of the drug to your liver faster and is the best RoA without doubt).

So I felt it best for someone to bluntly and quickly dissuade any readers of that idea by reminding them of BASIC facts that are already firmly and widely known and not up for question or debate, if you want to ignore the facts to perform harmful activities in order to pursue a placebo high, be my guest.
 
Phendimetrazine infact is a very potent stimulant, and when abused to a certain extent can be a very intense euphoriant. However, do not take any substances not perscribed by your doctor, and do not take any CNS stimulants if you have neurological/cardiac problems in the past, or hey run in your family. If you have no tolerance to this substance, than you will feel definite effects from one of the 35mg IR pills (can be potentiated by a certain very common psychoactive herb.) The thing about its mechanism of action is that a methyl group must be metabolized by the liver for the dose to become active in the body. That means if one were to orally ingest a pill, then half-way through its half-life, if one were to insufflate a smaller ammount, an individual could feel definite effects resembling the powerful energy in breath, focus, and lift in mood common stimulants produce, without a highly elevated heart rate, or being forced to move around constantly/jitter/tweak/speedtalk. Having said that, I do not advocate the misuse of any substances, be it for recreational purpose or uncontrolled pharmacological study.

Another important fact is that Phendimetrazines parent drug, Phenmetrazine, became controlled quickly due to proven addictive potential, making misuse of either substance react in a psychologically addictive manner. This means tolerance develops quickly making it shares recreational properties with hard drugs,making it dangerous and not worth the risk. If you think you have a drug problem, I urge you to seek help by visiting your nearest detox/rehab and attend NA/AA meetings to regulate your mind on living addiction free.

Take only as recommended by your physician, common side-effects may not be lucid until you are familiar with the medication.

"PhenDImetrazine is a PRO-drug...it is pointless to take it any way but oral, let alone stupid." That's what they said about heroin.
 
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Phendimetrazine tartrate extended-release 105 mg), my buddy just tookthat with a phentermine, 37.5mg. Both orally. Within 7 minutes He can feel the head rush. He has been taking phentermine by itself as prescribed for one month and it was a good calm "getting things done" feeling: no high, no crash, nothing but an appetite suppressant and was wonderful. They added the phendimetrazine today for an additional pick-me-up, clearly it's working.

For first time users, I would gauge this combo for a few hours before deciding to take more. This so far is a calm and thought organized motivator. He also took a couple low dose propranolol and an aspirin 30 minutes prior, but so far what a great alert aid. Tbh, He also took 30mg oxycodone which He has a disgusting tolerance to so I doubt that's playing into anything. At any rate, these meds were prescribed. But wanted to share their feeling vs quantity to anyone getting their hands on things illegally. Someone who is used to both has taken minor amounts and feeling good. If there's no tolerance, please don't over do it. The risk won't be worth the reward.
 
Phendimetrazine is sort of like a codeine type stimulant, it has to be demethylated to phenmetrazine before it is active. Taking it orally will actually ensure you get more conversion to phenmetrazine and hence "cleaner" effects.

There is literally nothing to be gained by injecting it even if you do everything properly.
 
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